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Eugene

(61,859 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:40 PM Jan 2019

Trump's attorney general pick says he did, in fact, register for draft

Source: Reuters

POLITICS JANUARY 3, 2019 / 7:51 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

Trump's attorney general pick says he did, in fact, register for draft

Andy Sullivan, Mark Hosenball
4 MIN READ

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s pick to serve as U.S. attorney general, William Barr, got his nomination off to an awkward start by telling lawmakers he did not register for the military draft during the Vietnam War, before saying on Thursday that he had in fact signed up.

Barr, who previously served as attorney general under President George H. W. Bush, told the Senate Judiciary Committee he had incorrectly described his draft record in biographical materials he submitted ahead of his confirmation hearings.

“I have not served in the U.S. Military. I was born in 1950 and was not required to register for selective service,” he wrote on a questionnaire released by the committee.

Historians said Barr would have been required to register for possible military service when he turned 18, a time when the government was drafting roughly 300,000 people per year to serve in Vietnam.

Barr changed his position after being asked by Reuters why he had not registered.

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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-barr/trumps-attorney-general-pick-says-he-did-in-fact-register-for-draft-idUSKCN1OY02U
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Trump's attorney general pick says he did, in fact, register for draft (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2019 OP
WTF? llmart Jan 2019 #1
umall males at age 18 still have to register demtenjeep Jan 2019 #3
I am a couple of months older than this jerk and I sure had to register rurallib Jan 2019 #2
Like every 18 year old male in the US in 1968 wasn't fully aware of Vietnam and the draft underpants Jan 2019 #5
This should be easy to check. TomSlick Jan 2019 #4
As far as I know we all had to register for the draft in those days. Other factors then happened. dameatball Jan 2019 #6
Was Jax Jacksonville, Florida? (nt) Elwood P Dowd Jan 2019 #11
Yes, they bused us there from MacDill in Tampa. dameatball Jan 2019 #18
Like every republican over the age of 18 ... matt819 Jan 2019 #7
It's hard to believe that any eligable male from the Vietnam era Izzy Blue Jan 2019 #8
The Only Plausible Explanation smb Jan 2019 #20
You register for the Selective Service. There were a few yrs that didn't requ registration, I think uppityperson Jan 2019 #9
there was a two or three year period which had no registration requirements, true... winstars Jan 2019 #16
Perhaps, But Not Those Years ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jan 2019 #24
I was in born in Sept 57, Mendocino Jan 2019 #10
Sounds right. Igel Jan 2019 #12
Explains It ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #22
born August 1951 onethatcares Jan 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #19
I registered and was drafted during Vietnam. A friend of mine did not register Elwood P Dowd Jan 2019 #14
I was born in 1963 exboyfil Jan 2019 #15
So what's the truth? Did he or did he not register? mainer Jan 2019 #17
I guess to get the call from don, you must be able to lie like don. spanone Jan 2019 #23

llmart

(15,536 posts)
1. WTF?
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jan 2019

Born in 1950 you didn't have to register? Is he f****** stoopid? There are plenty of men still alive who were born in 1950 and beyond who had to register for the draft.

Another chickenhawk Republican liar.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
2. I am a couple of months older than this jerk and I sure had to register
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jan 2019

IIRC we had a month to do so or they would come calling.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
5. Like every 18 year old male in the US in 1968 wasn't fully aware of Vietnam and the draft
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:54 PM
Jan 2019

and how to get around it.

I served in the Army (early 90's) who joined the Army as tankers with a contract taking them to Germany. Yes the Army can do what ever it wants but it was a safe bet. Joining the National Guard was another option.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
4. This should be easy to check.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jan 2019

The government is generally pretty good about keeping records. It should be a simple matter to find his registration.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
6. As far as I know we all had to register for the draft in those days. Other factors then happened.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jan 2019

Deferments, reserves enrollment for the better politically connected (think GWB) and ultimately draft lottery numbers. I rode a bus to Jax back in the day. Played ball against some other guys on the bus from different high schools. They fed us a ham sandwich and an apple. Ended up 1-A, but by then there was the lottery and they never called me.


This is how I remember things back then and if I am wrong please correct me. No offense. But among the friends I knew of draft age it seemed to be kind of tough to get into the reserves without some local politico writing you a letter. I had one friend that got into the reserves and broke his leg. That was the only person I knew that got into the reserves in those days.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
8. It's hard to believe that any eligable male from the Vietnam era
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jan 2019

Doesn't have a crystal clear memory of their circumstances pertaining to the draft.
Unless their hiding something.



"He will have a chance to explain the mix-up when he appears before the Judiciary Committee for confirmation hearings on January 15 and 16.

Many prominent U.S. politicians — including Trump — have struggled to explain why they did not serve in the Vietnam War, which bitterly divided the United States"

smb

(3,471 posts)
20. The Only Plausible Explanation
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jan 2019

Barr knew that his well-connected family would arrange for him to get a safe National Guard posting or a case of debilitating bone spurs or some other concocted excuse, so he didn't need to think any further about the matter.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. You register for the Selective Service. There were a few yrs that didn't requ registration, I think
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jan 2019

born 56-59 or so. But otherwise you had to. 1950 had th register, though may not have gotten drafted.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
21. Perhaps, But Not Those Years
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jan 2019

Born 1956, I had to register, although they stopped drafting a couple years before.
My cousin who lived with us, born 57, also had to.
My guess is your exempt period was for people born a little later.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #21)

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
10. I was in born in Sept 57,
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jan 2019

I never had to register. My buddy was born in Feb 57 and had to register. Between 3-29-57 until 12-31-59 there was no requirement to register.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
22. Explains It
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jan 2019

Above I commented how I did and so did my cousin.
But his bday is in February. 1957
Now, I get it.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
13. born August 1951
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jan 2019

registered when I turned 18. Lottery number 252. Joined the Army in 72 even though my number was not called.

You would have to be pretty damn dumb not to know the requirements.

Response to onethatcares (Reply #13)

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
14. I registered and was drafted during Vietnam. A friend of mine did not register
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 10:43 PM
Jan 2019

and was later turned in by someone. The court gave him a choice of prison or joining the Army for 3 years. He joined the Army.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
15. I was born in 1963
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jan 2019

I remember getting yelled at by my ROTC instructor for not being registered for Selective Service my first semester in college. I told him I was still 17, and I planned to when I turned 18.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. So what's the truth? Did he or did he not register?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:34 AM
Jan 2019

No man I know from that era would fail to remember if they registered. Most remember their lottery number too. If he failed to register, he is by law barred from federal jobs and is guilty of a crime punishable by prison.

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