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EarlG

(21,934 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:37 PM Jan 2019

Dear pundits: it's not the Democrats' job to give Trump his wall

Trump had two solid years with full control of the House and Senate and he wasn’t able to build his stupid fucking wall, nor get Mexico to pay for it.

Then he ran a mid-term election solely on how we’re all gonna die if we don’t BUILD THAT WALL to protect us from scary brown people and he got CREAMED. He lost dozens of seats and control of the House of Representatives.

Trump got elected in 2016 on the promise of building a wall. He had two years and he blew it. The next time the people got a chance to vote, they turned around, threw out the Republicans who were promising a wall, and put the Democrats in charge.

On what fucking planet are the Dems now supposed to turn around and give loser Trump the thing that he couldn’t even get from his own loser party???

PARDON MY EXPLETIVES!!!

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Dear pundits: it's not the Democrats' job to give Trump his wall (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2019 OP
Exactly. dalton99a Jan 2019 #1
You said it! mcar Jan 2019 #2
You know what was never said in 2016 by MSM? Alpeduez21 Jan 2019 #3
Preach it! nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #4
THANK YOU!! Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #5
McConnell could have given trump his wall in December after the House vote EleanorR Jan 2019 #6
So, maybe mcTurtle is really on our side? So many twists and turns.... nt erronis Jan 2019 #39
Oh god no, he's as evil and corrupt as they come. EleanorR Jan 2019 #45
Not enough expletives!! D_Master81 Jan 2019 #7
DFT can fund it himself, then collect the money from Mexico RainCaster Jan 2019 #8
K+R orangecrush Jan 2019 #9
You're PARDONED! Cha Jan 2019 #10
F'n A...K&R (n/t) Moostache Jan 2019 #11
I hate that they keep asking, "but aren't you concerned that democrats will be blamed?" ecstatic Jan 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jan 2019 #15
Spot on, EarlG Hekate Jan 2019 #13
When a child is having a tantrum because he wants something Bettie Jan 2019 #14
For sure! A lesson he should have been learning since he was 3 years old. Nobody gets to have EVERY Doitnow Jan 2019 #33
Yep, that's what happens Bettie Jan 2019 #34
My nine month old niece is more mature than Herr Orange. 47of74 Jan 2019 #49
As a side note....the wind is what causes bark on trees to crack and grow Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #52
The M$M is not our friend. watoos Jan 2019 #16
They respond to their constituents' The Wizard Jan 2019 #17
Preach it! ffr Jan 2019 #18
Could actually be more expletive, if you ask me. czarjak Jan 2019 #19
Thank you! yonder Jan 2019 #20
M$M is trying to create a controversy where no controversy exists. ooky Jan 2019 #21
No apologies needed on my behalf! The M$M is a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP. n/t akraven Jan 2019 #22
Democrats didn't promise the wall PatSeg Jan 2019 #23
What happened to elections have consequences? gratuitous Jan 2019 #24
Ditto malaise Jan 2019 #30
Absofuckinlutely right EarlG blue-wave Jan 2019 #25
Good point. PatrickforO Jan 2019 #26
K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #27
Not enough expletives! LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #28
We should bomb their FB pages with this message. CrispyQ Jan 2019 #29
Dems should have one coordinated zentrum Jan 2019 #31
Something I never hear discussed: colorado_ufo Jan 2019 #32
Well said. Vinca Jan 2019 #35
And if we give in to Trump now, how many more times will he demand $5B every time the Dems put up Doitnow Jan 2019 #36
I agree with everything but the last line. theaocp Jan 2019 #37
Darn right lsewpershad Jan 2019 #38
Plus fucking money has been fucking allocated to him... SMC22307 Jan 2019 #40
Oh, damn. Fat Nixon. Iggo Jan 2019 #43
Mexico said what? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #41
FUCK! Iggo Jan 2019 #42
What pundit is saying this? brooklynite Jan 2019 #44
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Jan 2019 #46
If you didn't feel the need for expletives (using them or not) there'd be something wrong ... marble falls Jan 2019 #47
Brilliant post! nt raccoon Jan 2019 #48
NO F***ing Wall StarzGuy Jan 2019 #50
MAGA Man... myohmy2 Jan 2019 #51
It's about time to kick this again I think. Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #53

Alpeduez21

(1,749 posts)
3. You know what was never said in 2016 by MSM?
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:39 PM
Jan 2019

Republicans better be careful not to overplay their hand.

Freaking disgusting

EleanorR

(2,388 posts)
6. McConnell could have given trump his wall in December after the House vote
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jan 2019

He could have given trump his wall and kept the government open, but Mitch said nope.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
7. Not enough expletives!!
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jan 2019

This joke of an administration shouldn't get anything from the Dems but subpoenas.

RainCaster

(10,831 posts)
8. DFT can fund it himself, then collect the money from Mexico
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jan 2019

He is such a rich bastard, he can do it without our help. After all, he makes the best deals and he knows the best people. Because he is SO rich.

ecstatic

(32,648 posts)
12. I hate that they keep asking, "but aren't you concerned that democrats will be blamed?"
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jan 2019

They're trying to push public sentiment in that direction it seems. Do they not understand that they play a role in public perception?

Next time that question is asked, someone should say, "Depends. Will your boss allow you to do your f*cking job and accurately report the truth? All of trump's lies about the wall, as well as crimes involving undocumented workers at his own facilities, are very well documented. You could try reporting on that during the standoff."

Response to ecstatic (Reply #12)

Bettie

(16,068 posts)
14. When a child is having a tantrum because he wants something
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:27 AM
Jan 2019

the worst possible thing to do is give it to him.

I suspect that if he had been denied things just to shut him up as a child, he might be a different type of person.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
33. For sure! A lesson he should have been learning since he was 3 years old. Nobody gets to have EVERY
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jan 2019

ThING they want in life. To give in to excess is to teach a child that something is very wrong not to always get what he wants.

Reminds me of the story Thom Hartmann tells about the group of people who periodically visit some huge glass-enclosed arboretum somewhere to shake the trees. The structure contains an abundance of plant life and is, of course, protected from the natural elements, including the wind. These people come to shake the trees to imitate what would be occurring out-of-doors in order to make the tree roots strong as they grow. Otherwise, they fall over very easily if pushed.

Bettie

(16,068 posts)
34. Yep, that's what happens
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:28 PM
Jan 2019

The story about the trees is interesting.

We have a three year old in charge of our government. It terrifies me.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
52. As a side note....the wind is what causes bark on trees to crack and grow
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jan 2019

to harden it, so the tree will be strong.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. The M$M is not our friend.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jan 2019

But there is hope, people like Nancy Pelosi can change the narrative. When she calls a press conference they will come and Trump isn't going to be the center of attention like he was.

The Wizard

(12,534 posts)
17. They respond to their constituents'
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:42 AM
Jan 2019

needs and wishes, not Trump. If they choose to fondle Trump they should be voted out.

ooky

(8,905 posts)
21. M$M is trying to create a controversy where no controversy exists.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:05 AM
Jan 2019

Its not a Democrat problem that Trimp lied and made promises he couldn't keep, and then turns around and takes the government and government workers as hostages to get his way.

PatSeg

(47,255 posts)
23. Democrats didn't promise the wall
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:12 AM
Jan 2019

Trump did and he promised over and over again that Mexico would pay for it, "Believe me folks, believe me."

Sounds like Trump's problem to me. Democrats aren't responsible for Trump's broken promises. Maybe he shouldn't have promised stupid crap.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. What happened to elections have consequences?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:27 AM
Jan 2019

Why don't election winners have a mandate anymore? Trump lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million ballots, but all anyone in the media could talk about is how the American people had given the Republicans an irrevocable mandate to do pretty much anything they wanted forever, in spite of any number of election irregularities, gerrymandering, and open Republican cheating. The Democrats win a smashing mid-term victory with the highest turnout in memory, and all the media can talk about is how the Democrats need to reach across the aisle and do what the Republicans couldn't do when they held all the power.

Fuck that shit.

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
25. Absofuckinlutely right EarlG
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:38 AM
Jan 2019

The talking heads have done their fair share to mess up our country and are still clueless and/or bought by the republicons of the 1% and corporations. The Democrats need to take these issues and shove them down the throats, or maybe up the asses of every republicon until that party is nothing but a bad, distant nightmare. Period.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
31. Dems should have one coordinated
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jan 2019

.....talking point so that the MSM would finally have to also say: "For 5 Billion we could build x number of schools, fix x number of roads and bridges, train x number of rural and out of work coal miners in tech jobs, grant x number of free college educations" and on and one and on.

colorado_ufo

(5,730 posts)
32. Something I never hear discussed:
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jan 2019

If this magical wall were somehow to be built, who is going to pay to MAINTAIN IT? Ground shifts, floods, lightning strikes, heat/cold, man-made damage - a wall of this size would cost a FORTUNE to maintain, even to monitor for damage and weaknesses. Wildlife migrations interrupted, properties falling to eminent domain and losing their value, and more and more.

It's like that war in Iraq that was supposed to last a few weeks and we would be welcomed as liberators - so welcome that they would reward us with their oil! Years and thousands of lives later, it goes on.

After it is determined that the wall was impractical, useless, and costly, then we would have to pay to tear it down and remove the debris.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
36. And if we give in to Trump now, how many more times will he demand $5B every time the Dems put up
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jan 2019

a bill for consideration. What do you call that?---Extortion? Blackmail? Something ugly, anyway. Like gangster-dealing. Trump is well-acquainted with such methods from the looks of things.

theaocp

(4,232 posts)
37. I agree with everything but the last line.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jan 2019

Everyone needs to stop apologizing for cursing. We're fucking adults, people. We've earned the fucking privilege.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
40. Plus fucking money has been fucking allocated to him...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:14 PM
Jan 2019

for his fucking wall and he's spent a fucking fraction of it! No more money, Fat Nixon!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,241 posts)
41. Mexico said what?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:18 PM
Jan 2019

Mexico will not pay for that fucking wall.

Bratty baby Donald said they would.

Leave Dems out of that spat.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
47. If you didn't feel the need for expletives (using them or not) there'd be something wrong ...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 08:48 AM
Jan 2019

with your perception of cheeto's wall mania.

StarzGuy

(254 posts)
50. NO F***ing Wall
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jan 2019

Democrats, don't even think of giving these turds a God d**n border wall. If you do, you will lose your mandate to do the peoples business. If you can just wait them out a number of the rats will jump ship and we can move on.

myohmy2

(3,138 posts)
51. MAGA Man...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:01 AM
Jan 2019

...and his MAGA Pukes had two years to develop and build his MAGA Wall yet no MAGA Results?

...MAGA Man's fooling us...he's only a pretend MAGA Developer from New York...

...MAGA Fail...

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