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no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts) Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:11 AM Jan 2019

It's never been about $5.6 billion.

It's about control and dominance.

Even if Speaker Pelosi gave the money to Trump, he'd immediately demand another $10 billion or another figure. Just because.

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It's never been about $5.6 billion. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 OP

Yeah and where would that money go, Trump would find a way of syphoning it off to himself. sunonmars Jan 2019 #1

Exactly no_hypocrisy Jan 2019 #2

Yep. He is expecting kickbacks from the contract that he probably TrishaJ Jan 2019 #11

He had two years to get his wall money. Quemado Jan 2019 #3

In many ways this Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #5

Yep he wants deference from Dems malaise Jan 2019 #4

Where are the plans for the spending of 5 billion dollars? watoos Jan 2019 #6

You are on the right track, but "bidding' is not necessarily accurate. Projects like this would be dameatball Jan 2019 #9

He hasn't spent 90+% of the money from the last two years....... Bengus81 Jan 2019 #13

He was offered 25 billion and.... Mustellus Jan 2019 #7

He wants us all focused on the wall Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #8

He just wants another ugly, useless piece of concrete with his name on it in gold. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #10

The hostage taker will continue to take more hostages. dalton99a Jan 2019 #12

If Dems give in to him now, he'll be demanding more for every single thing the Dems Doitnow Jan 2019 #14

It is about the Bullying maxsolomon Jan 2019 #15

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)

1. Yeah and where would that money go, Trump would find a way of syphoning it off to himself.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:12 AM

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no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)

2. Exactly

Reply to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:13 AM

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TrishaJ

(797 posts)

11. Yep. He is expecting kickbacks from the contract that he probably

Reply to sunonmars (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 11:55 AM

Jan 2019

already has in place. It's not about a WALL, it's about his BUSINESS.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)

3. He had two years to get his wall money.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:37 AM

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Why now? Because I think he held onto the wall issue so he could use it as a card in poker. After the mid-term election, his hand went weak, and the wall issue was like an ace.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

5. In many ways this

Reply to Quemado (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:52 AM

Jan 2019

Is Paul Ryan’s shutdown. He didn’t want to handle it and tossed the hot potato 🥔 off to the Democrats. It was a winner for him.

malaise

(268,930 posts)

4. Yep he wants deference from Dems

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:45 AM

Jan 2019

For two years ReTHUGs did not give him his wall money. Dems win the House and he shuts down the government.
Stand firm Dems- you cannot defer to this bully.

watoos

(7,142 posts)

6. Where are the plans for the spending of 5 billion dollars?

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:14 AM

Jan 2019

You don't just give Trump money with no accountability. Then there's the bidding process for who is going to do the building. Then, of course, where do we get the material? From America I would hope? Trump's wall isn't real, it's a metaphor for hatred of brown skinned people.

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity." General George Patton.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)

9. You are on the right track, but "bidding' is not necessarily accurate. Projects like this would be

Reply to watoos (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:02 AM

Jan 2019

done by "proposal." That's because different designers would bring different project descriptions to the table. Then they are scored by the government. The highest scored proposal would then be negotiated as to price and timelines for completion. There could end up being multiple contracts awarded. So for right now they might as well pull any dollar figure out of their asses. Irrelevant at this point. This is a complete dog and pony show.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)

13. He hasn't spent 90+% of the money from the last two years.......

Reply to watoos (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:19 PM

Jan 2019

He's just rat-holing it to try somehow,someway to offset the HUGE revenue losses from his Tax SCAM.

Mustellus

(328 posts)

7. He was offered 25 billion and....

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:16 AM

Jan 2019

.. a Dreamers' solution. He rejected it.

He can't make a "deal", where both sides get something. He doesn't need to "win". He needs others to lose.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)

8. He wants us all focused on the wall

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:49 AM

Jan 2019

So he can continue to help little Putin.

Trump's main purpose is to turn the US into a patsy for little man Putin. After Trump is forced out or indicted, he will escape to Russia. He's not really worried about legal action against himself (and he sure as hell doesn't care if his family is jailed) because he has plans to escape to Russia.