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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:35 PM Jan 2019

Dems call freshman's impeachment remarks 'inappropriate'


BY SCOTT WONG AND CRISTINA MARCOS - 01/04/19 01:10 PM EST

House Democrats on Friday pushed back on one of their newest colleagues, who attacked President Trump the previous day by vowing to “impeach the motherf---r.”

The jarring remarks by liberal freshman firebrand Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) put Democrats on the defensive less than 24 hours after they took control of the House, putting a spotlight on the possible impeachment of Trump instead of Democratic efforts to end the government shutdown and the party's legislative priorities.

“I have never said that in a public setting. The choice of words is inappropriate,” longtime Rep. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.), a member of the Oversight Committee, told The Hill. “We should conduct oversight, which is our responsibility, vigorous oversight, because it’s been lacking the last two years. And I think that we should also wait for Special Counsel [Robert] Mueller’s report to Congress so we can determine what we need to do.”

House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), who will lead many of Democrats’ investigations into the Trump administration, also called Tlaib’s comments “inappropriate.”

“One of the things that I've said about my committee, I've said that we will reclaim civility," Cummings told reporters in the Capitol. "You cannot accomplish very much of anything unless you have civility and show respect for your colleagues. And I think those kind of comments do not take us in the right direction.”

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/423905-dems-call-freshmans-impeachment-remarks-inappropriate
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Dems call freshman's impeachment remarks 'inappropriate' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
Unfortunately, a lot of people suddenly have the F word as part of their basic vocabulary. LisaM Jan 2019 #1
The first lady has naked pictures depicting sex acts Drahthaardogs Jan 2019 #46
I actually have to correct myself on one point. LisaM Jan 2019 #47
Putting kids in cages is inappropriate. Ignoring the Atomwaffen Division is inappropriate. ck4829 Jan 2019 #2
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #9
Putting kids in cages predates Trump oberliner Jan 2019 #12
So What? It doesn't make it right. Cha Jan 2019 #16
It also doesn't apply to this discussion Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #18
Choo-choo! Here comes the WH Excuse Train! FSogol Jan 2019 #19
Unreal.. the #whataboutism. Cha Jan 2019 #20
Yup, SSDD. FSogol Jan 2019 #21
lol Cha Jan 2019 #22
The "whataboutism" is saying "what about kids in cages" in response to someone saying MF-er oberliner Jan 2019 #36
Yes, your ##Whataboutism Cha Jan 2019 #38
I don't understand this response oberliner Jan 2019 #39
I understand it. LuckyCharms Jan 2019 #43
Can you clarify? oberliner Jan 2019 #44
Putting kids in cages predates Trump oberliner Jan 2019 #27
This is nonsense Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #17
The media certainly mobilized to get Democrats on the record about swear words, didn't they? gratuitous Jan 2019 #24
They are inappropriate. Ironically some are justifying it by using Trump as the standard for still_one Jan 2019 #3
Cool story, bro. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #4
So are those who supply links ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT SOMEONE IS REFERRING TOO still_one Jan 2019 #7
damn, and me without my pearls to clutch.... KG Jan 2019 #5
It was in a private meeting. Right? underpants Jan 2019 #6
No such thing as a "private meeting" when you're a U.S. Congresswoman in a roomful of people EffieBlack Jan 2019 #8
Completely agree. I drop F bombs, but never MF, give me the creeps. Blue_true Jan 2019 #28
The Hill ... GeorgeGist Jan 2019 #10
Straight from the billionaire's mouth to DU pecosbob Jan 2019 #14
You think The Hill is the only publication quoting Democrats about this? Really? DonViejo Jan 2019 #15
Doesn't make it any less of a RWTP. pecosbob Jan 2019 #23
You're just hell bent on insisting anyone that doesn't agree with you or, has the audacity to DonViejo Jan 2019 #25
No sir I am not pecosbob Jan 2019 #26
You either don't know much about this site or, don't want to know about it, e.g. DonViejo Jan 2019 #29
You posted the article without comment, so most will assume you agree with the Hill's spin emulatorloo Jan 2019 #32
Yawn. I hardly ever post news articles with my own comment included...I post articles... DonViejo Jan 2019 #33
Don't be so defensive, I enjoy your posting of articles emulatorloo Jan 2019 #35
You know it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #31
We'll all survive. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #11
cheezus IcyPeas Jan 2019 #13
The Hill doing their usual "DEMOCRATS IN DISSARY11!!!" Narrative emulatorloo Jan 2019 #30
Yes, because quiet deference has worked so well in the past. java108 Jan 2019 #34
Gezzus, get over it already! What's next Al Franken type forced resignation by RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2019 #37
Bullshit... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #40
She broke through the media's normalization of Trump. She's speaking for millions of Americans. jalan48 Jan 2019 #41
Should have called it "PREMATURE" Liberal In Texas Jan 2019 #42
Gee, I heard Speaker Pelosi comment on this. Sounded QUITE different from The Hill Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #45

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
1. Unfortunately, a lot of people suddenly have the F word as part of their basic vocabulary.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jan 2019

I honestly don't think they hear themselves say it. I had to chide a person on a bus coming home from a baseball game for throwing F bombs in front of little kids (four and five years old, maybe) on a bus; to his credit, he did admit he shouldn't have been doing that and stopped.

I was on a plane about a year ago, and two men were having a conversation about work and seriously, about every third word was "f**ker". I actually considered calling the stewardess, but I let it go and I still half regret it. It was excruciating to listen to them four feet away talking like that.

Now, I'm hardly against swearing and I've been known to use a lot of profanity myself, but in some situations, including work, I would not. Like it or not, for Representative Tlaib, she made that remark while she was essentially at work and yes, it's inappropriate to do it in public. Closed door meeting, maybe different, but c'mon! Try to hear what the rest of us hear when you throw that word around.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
46. The first lady has naked pictures depicting sex acts
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:07 AM
Jan 2019

With a swedish model.

Mother fucker is fairly tame....

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
47. I actually have to correct myself on one point.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:26 AM
Jan 2019

Apparently she was at a private event. The headline I read was misleading.

I still get tired of people throwing F Bombs all.day long in front of kids.

ck4829

(35,040 posts)
2. Putting kids in cages is inappropriate. Ignoring the Atomwaffen Division is inappropriate.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jan 2019

Rashida Tlaib is just speaking to the "forgotten Americans".

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
18. It also doesn't apply to this discussion
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jan 2019

Trump's policies are hurting more than just children in cages, but that is beside the point. Entirely.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. The "whataboutism" is saying "what about kids in cages" in response to someone saying MF-er
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:35 PM
Jan 2019

Just because kids were put in cages in various presidential administrations (including the current one and the previous one) is not relevant to whether or not it is appropriate for members of Congress to use that language in that context.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. Putting kids in cages predates Trump
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

It is awful now and it was awful before.

No excuses for any administration which allowed this occur.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
17. This is nonsense
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jan 2019

I seriously doubt the forgotten Americans are all sitting around waiting for someone to be "speaking to" them with profanity.

Why can't you folks who aren't offended by foul language understand the nuance of optics and leadership? We DON'T care if Tlaib says motherfucker ten times in a row to her peers behind closed doors. But in the public limelight, first thing, it would have been prudent to show some solid leadership and, oh I don't know, some imagination. I mean, is fuck, fucker, etc. all we got? Calling for impeachment would not have gotten the same attention had it been said without the profanity. As silly as that may be to YOU, it isn't to everyone. Why play into Trump's hands?

But whatever. This debate has already so beyond jumped the shark. Oh, wait, let me rephrase that so I too can sound like I'm a progressive rebel - the motherfucking shark!!!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. The media certainly mobilized to get Democrats on the record about swear words, didn't they?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jan 2019

But for some reason, they don't ask a lot of questions about tearing families apart, caging and torturing children, or children who are just so gosh-darned stubborn that they die while in custody in an attempt to embarrass the Emperor Trump.

still_one

(92,062 posts)
7. So are those who supply links ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT SOMEONE IS REFERRING TOO
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211624523

and in addition, it is an unecessary distraction at this time




underpants

(182,634 posts)
6. It was in a private meeting. Right?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jan 2019

As I posted elsewhere the press HAS to have two horses in this race. They have to stir this up to keep the right happy. The use “access” as an excuse.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
8. No such thing as a "private meeting" when you're a U.S. Congresswoman in a roomful of people
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jan 2019

She's in a different world than she was last week.

And, maybe the press DOES have an agenda - but that's a reality and she needs to adjust to it if she's not going to put her foot in it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. Completely agree. I drop F bombs, but never MF, give me the creeps.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jan 2019

If I were in government or when I am talking face to face with people, I never swear. Online is a little different.

She has to realize that everytime she opens her mouth now, a camera or a microphone will be near, or there will be a person that runs to the Press with what she said.

Be tough, be thorough, but don't distract from that with poorly chosen speech.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
25. You're just hell bent on insisting anyone that doesn't agree with you or, has the audacity to
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:13 PM
Jan 2019

publish an article you disagree with, is involved in RW nonsense. Why aren't you using your phone to call the quoted Democratic elected officials, demanding they retract their quotes, instead of complaining about a publication printing something you've decided is right-wing elephant dung?

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
26. No sir I am not
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

I simply don't think this site's purpose is to be a news source nor a news aggregation site. It's purpose is to advance the Democratic agenda and I think repeating news coverage that works against that end is contrary to the site's purpose.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
29. You either don't know much about this site or, don't want to know about it, e.g.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jan 2019

from the SOP in the LBN Forum, the Administrators

Thousands of people use the DU Latest Breaking News Forum as their primary source for news. Please do not "dilute" the forum by starting threads that are not news.

emulatorloo

(44,072 posts)
32. You posted the article without comment, so most will assume you agree with the Hill's spin
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

Most DU’ers feel the Hill traffics in DEMS IN DISARRAY narratives and structure their articles in ways to divide Democrats.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
33. Yawn. I hardly ever post news articles with my own comment included...I post articles...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jan 2019

not my opinion. Don't like it? Feel free to add my name to your ignore list.

emulatorloo

(44,072 posts)
35. Don't be so defensive, I enjoy your posting of articles
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jan 2019

You just seemed to not understand why you are getting backlash in this thread.

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
13. cheezus
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jan 2019

now this is what they are discussing on CNN!! really? a curseword?

WHO THE FUCK CARES?

what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

emulatorloo

(44,072 posts)
30. The Hill doing their usual "DEMOCRATS IN DISSARY11!!!" Narrative
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:23 PM
Jan 2019

This is a big nothing, so of course the Hill and Politico are going to make it a “thing”

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,434 posts)
37. Gezzus, get over it already! What's next Al Franken type forced resignation by
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jan 2019

....purists--leave that hypocritical hyperbole to evangelical "christian" lying repubs. Today Speaker Pelosi, publicly stood by her colleague...lets do that shall we. Frankly, she is just iterating what many of us are thinking...get this mal [bad, sick evil] hombre out of our WH ; or as she aptly said "impeach the mother f....er" When I read her comment..it ended an already perfect day: Dems in charge of House, Speaker Pelosi at the helm, steller democratic leadership team..her comment was icing on the cake. [Note: of course with all due respect to Rep. Cummings...I usually agree with him--yet, not on this issue.

[Jan42019 ktla ccnwire] snip

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she “wouldn’t use” Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s salty comments about impeaching President Donald Trump, but she also downplayed the episode and noted it was “nothing worse than the President has said.”

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://ktla.com/2019/01/04/pelosi-says-rep-rashida-tlaibs-impeachment-comment-is-nothing-worse-than-the-president-has-said/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj_wbHgjtXfAhUM7p8KHSAcB9gQFjAIegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3mAKUWUfadL6avWc906CzX&cf=1

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
40. Bullshit...
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jan 2019

many said the language was "too strong" and shit like that. Nobody is "pushing back" all that hard.

Stinky The Clown

(67,766 posts)
45. Gee, I heard Speaker Pelosi comment on this. Sounded QUITE different from The Hill
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:04 AM
Jan 2019

She was very low key when speaking about it.

She said it wasn't a big deal.

She said she's not in the censorship business.

She said she had a "generational" reaction to it.

She said she wouldn't use the term, but understood (and respected) those who do.

She said that the words on the President have weight and affect people's lives. Rashida Tlaib's words did no such thing.


I heard no disarray and no controversy in the Democrat's LEADER comments.

But of course rags like The Hill gotta do what they do cuz its what they do when they do shit.

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