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Trump says he "may" grant himself emergency powers to build the wall. (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2019 OP
It's called a declaration of dictatorship, and THAT's the national emergency Hekate Jan 2019 #1
What's next? Martial law? DinahMoeHum Jan 2019 #2
Proceed, asshole dalton99a Jan 2019 #3
There's a tendency to say trump is 'crazy' etc., however, empedocles Jan 2019 #4
putin could/would/maybe already has, 'advised' trump on the number of 'con Senators empedocles Jan 2019 #5
Did you catch Rachel's show last night? Flaleftist Jan 2019 #11
It's called "ILLEGAL." fleur-de-lisa Jan 2019 #6
This months Atlantic Mag offers no such comfort empedocles Jan 2019 #9
I'll take the word of an expert over The Atlantic any day: fleur-de-lisa Jan 2019 #12
Does not appear to be a black and white issue. empedocles Jan 2019 #17
He is not the only traitor to the constitution Chickensoup Jan 2019 #7
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #8
...go ahead Dump. roamer65 Jan 2019 #10
National Emergency Powers struggle4progress Jan 2019 #13
Thank you. That "may" is the tell. He does this all the time. nolabear Jan 2019 #15
50 USC Ch. 34: NATIONAL EMERGENCIES struggle4progress Jan 2019 #14
So may the Democratcs declare a national emergency on the healthcare crisis? EarthFirst Jan 2019 #16

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. There's a tendency to say trump is 'crazy' etc., however,
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jan 2019

trump just might, and we need to consider the possibility, just might be being prompted by some source, that may be thinking/planning ahead - to take advantage of a crisis. Emergency/martial powers are dangerous. A number of 'con Senators may be 'compromised by NRA, etc. 'campaign contributions' - creating further dangers.

trump may just be 'crazy' - but, we must consider other possibilities.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. putin could/would/maybe already has, 'advised' trump on the number of 'con Senators
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jan 2019

who are so compromised, that trump may count on those senate supporters and votes.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
11. Did you catch Rachel's show last night?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jan 2019

Trump has been pushing Russian propaganda. The kind of shit Fox News doesn't even say. Someone is definitely pulling his strings, like Russian intelligence.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
6. It's called "ILLEGAL."
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jan 2019

He can't appropriate money without Congress, but of course he is too stupid to realize it.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
9. This months Atlantic Mag offers no such comfort
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jan 2019

Limits on 'executive power' poorly defined. 123 statutes granting the President various powers.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
17. Does not appear to be a black and white issue.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jan 2019

Lawfare is on another thread for further confusion.

I would be interested to know what Jones-Day has been bandying about in recent months.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. ...go ahead Dump.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jan 2019

Secession then becomes viable and legal when the compact called the Constitution is broken.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
13. National Emergency Powers
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

The President of the United States has available certain powers that may be exercised in the event that the nation is threatened by crisis, exigency, or emergency circumstances (other than natural disasters, war, or near-war situations). Such powers may be stated explicitly or implied by the Constitution, assumed by the Chief Executive to be permissible constitutionally, or inferred from or specified by statute. Through legislation, Congress has made a great many delegations of authority in this regard over the past 200 years.

There are, however, limits and restraints upon the President in his exercise of emergency powers. With the exception of the habeas corpus clause, the Constitution makes no allowance for the suspension of any of its provisions during a national emergency. Disputes over the constitutionality or legality of the exercise of emergency powers are judicially reviewable. Indeed, both the judiciary and Congress, as co-equal branches, can restrain the executive regarding emergency powers. So can public opinion. Furthermore, since 1976, the President has been subject to certain procedural formalities in utilizing some statutorily delegated emergency authority. The National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601-1651) eliminated or modified some statutory grants of emergency authority; required the President to declare formally the existence of a national emergency and to specify what statutory authority, activated by the declaration, would be used; and provided Congress a means to countermand the President’s declaration and the activated authority being sought. The development of this regulatory statute and subsequent declarations of national emergency are reviewed in this report ...

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

nolabear

(41,938 posts)
15. Thank you. That "may" is the tell. He does this all the time.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jan 2019

He makes “maybe this, maybe that” statements, “people are saying” comments, “I’m considering” “I’m looking at” etc., none of which have any substance whatever. Later he just pretends he never said it.

We need to be vigilant but not let him keep us hysterical.

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