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Seth Abramson....on Maria Butina...5 thread (Original Post) pbmus Jan 2019 OP
Biggest scandal in history! BlueJac Jan 2019 #1
Unrolled thread here: emulatorloo Jan 2019 #2
The last one nailed it... BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #5
and she would be toast juxtaposed Jan 2019 #7
if she went back to Russia NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #9
Oops...those banana peels end up in the oddest places. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #10
+1, Russians get REALLY clumsy around tall buildings uponit7771 Jan 2019 #12
thanks for the link! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #15
History is slowly rolling over rump excesses, and non presidential behavior and will NOT kindly... SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #3
K&R...👍🏼 spanone Jan 2019 #4
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #6
If Butina is sent home, she's dead before she gets off the plane. lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #8
Like Cohen, her word is worth moose piss without corroboration. Marcuse Jan 2019 #11
And you have no corroborating evidence for that assertion. Mueller speaks in indictments... Hekate Jan 2019 #14
I half wonder if this arrest in Russia is an "engineered" event. CentralMass Jan 2019 #13
Really? PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #17
Agreed. CentralMass Jan 2019 #22
...and they arrested a larcenous Trump partisan. gordianot Jan 2019 #18
Yes, quite a coincidence. CentralMass Jan 2019 #21
I agree with Seth. saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #16
The sheer amount of chaos she creates is a Russian dream come true. gordianot Jan 2019 #19
When they give me lemons? saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #20

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
5. The last one nailed it...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jan 2019

If she already helped Mueller and gave useful info, when/if she goes back to Russia she will be toast. I wouldn't put it past the fucking moron to try it to appease Putin though and he will seem like a hero to his base for getting a kidnapped American spy back to the US safely.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. if she went back to Russia
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jan 2019

she would "accidentally" jump out of a 30 story window or shoot herself in the head multiple times

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
10. Oops...those banana peels end up in the oddest places.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jan 2019

They always seem to be found in front of open windows of tall buildings.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
3. History is slowly rolling over rump excesses, and non presidential behavior and will NOT kindly...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jan 2019

remember this admin. in a positive way. And barely into two years so far of this admin.

Sad. But no one else is to blame but themselves. rump is already screaming all kinds of excuses for just about anything that can go wrong in next two years.

And we're not done w/ the Mueller investigations nor all of the other investigations going on via rump universe.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. If Butina is sent home, she's dead before she gets off the plane.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jan 2019

Which is why it appears that Trump and Putin are conspiring to do exactly that.

Marcuse

(7,446 posts)
11. Like Cohen, her word is worth moose piss without corroboration.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jan 2019

After she fingered NRA Republicans (all of them) her usefulness to Mueller was at an end.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
14. And you have no corroborating evidence for that assertion. Mueller speaks in indictments...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019

He and his people don't leak -- but Mueller has dozens of indictments to his name.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
17. Really?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jan 2019

Only half? tRump's worst nightmare is Butina on a witness stand. It doesn't matter how much she's given Mueller, tRump wants her out of the US. Russia doesn't care about her, only tRump does...

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
16. I agree with Seth.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:43 PM
Jan 2019

Maria still has more red sparrow songbird potential. Maria, she just can't stop singing, Maria can sing about all flavors of traitors, the NRA, the Republican Party, sources and methods or assets of her Russian masters. Maria, Maria, Maria please do keep singing.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
20. When they give me lemons?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:03 PM
Jan 2019

There is no win/win to be had, I agree. Looking at the benefits already, we know the NRA and most Republicans in Congress were on the Russian payroll. We know that some sort of rules were bent at the Republican nominating convention to favor Russia.

If Democrats focus the chaos back at lumpy drawers and the Republicans, we can do them real harm politically. imo

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