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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:38 PM Jan 2019

Senator Jack Reed just released statement on Trump declaring a national emergency to build wall

/04/2019 —
WASHINGTON, DC - Today, U.S. Senator Jack Reed (D-RI), Ranking Member of the Armed Services Committee, issued the following statement after President Trump threatened to use emergency powers to try to use U.S. Department of Defense funds and military personnel to build a border wall along the Southwest border:

“The idea that President Trump is considering declaring a phony national emergency as a pretext to take billions of dollars away from our troops and defense priorities in order to pay for his wall should alarm all Americans.

“Declaring a trumped up national emergency in order to skirt Congressional approval is wrong. And our troops and taxpayers should not bear the burden of a broken, preposterous campaign promise.

“Defense spending is for national defense, not the Trump campaign’s political wish list. I will work with colleagues on both sides of the aisle to block any attempt to take money that has been dedicated for our troops and redirect it to construction of a wasteful, ineffective wall.

“President Trump had an all-Republican Congress for the last two years and they didn’t enact his wall. Now, suddenly, he wants the Pentagon to foot the bill. Absolutely not.

“Using 10 U.S.C. 2808 or 284 is not appropriate. 2808 specifies that even if the president declares a national emergency, any military construction project must be “necessary to support such use of the armed forces.” We are not at war with Mexico, and the proposed border wall has no core DOD function. Indeed, the Pentagon’s most recent National Defense Strategy doesn’t mention the southern border as a national defense priority.

“President Trump’s midterm troop deployment stunt will cost DOD and taxpayers an estimated $132 million and counting. That money could have been better spent on actual border security rather than on campaign season border security theater.

“The Pentagon has billions of dollars in infrastructure backlogs, ranging from military construction projects for new missions to deferred maintenance in facilities sustainment, restoration, and modernization. There is no credible argument that a border wall takes priority over any of these. Moreover, if President Trump attempted to use 2808, that would require DOD to cancel MILCON projects that have already been authorized and appropriated by Congress in order to try and redirect the funds to a border wall. So which MILCON projects -- which DOD already deemed its highest priorities -- will the Trump Administration now try to terminate or delay in order to fund the wall? I urge President Trump to share his proposed list with Congress and the American people.

“The President needs to understand that there is bipartisan opposition to misusing defense dollars or treating the Pentagon like a campaign piggy bank.

“Congress must work together to provide our troops with a budget and policies to match their extraordinary courage and sacrifice, and I urge President Trump to do the same.”

https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/releases/reed-opposes-trump-administrations-plan-to-declare-national-emergency-and-use-defense-dollars-to-pay-for-wall

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Senator Jack Reed just released statement on Trump declaring a national emergency to build wall (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jan 2019 OP
YES! YES! YES! malaise Jan 2019 #1
It damn well is. pangaia Jan 2019 #21
I'm glad his response was so swift malaise Jan 2019 #23
Sure Trump manufactured a national emergency shutdown to obstruct Justice populistdriven Jan 2019 #30
Proof? Who needs proof. pangaia Jan 2019 #32
Proof isn't proof populistdriven Jan 2019 #33
LOL Kitchari Jan 2019 #41
But "they're bringing drugs; they' re rapists..." maddiemom Jan 2019 #34
Got that right. nt guruoo Jan 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author octoberlib Jan 2019 #2
There's a 'D' canetoad Jan 2019 #3
Jack Reed is a Dem. n/t ms liberty Jan 2019 #6
Jack Reed is a Democratic Senator from Delaware. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #7
R.I. aeromanKC Jan 2019 #14
Lol...nt Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #27
Well I got it half right. Do I pass? Blue_true Jan 2019 #36
Oh ya!! aeromanKC Jan 2019 #38
But you were right, that would have been an abnormally intelligent letter for a republican. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #9
Lol, I don't know why I thought he was an R. octoberlib Jan 2019 #15
He sorts of flies under the net of publicity. Blue_true Jan 2019 #37
He was very good in the Kavanaugh hearing. Other than that, he's working behind the scenes. JudyM Jan 2019 #50
Maybe.. cannabis_flower Jan 2019 #48
What say ye, Republicans? dalton99a Jan 2019 #4
On the record as crickets. nt guruoo Jan 2019 #25
Mittens has apparently lost the kittens he should be having JHB Jan 2019 #46
It's a Trumped Up Presidency. nolabear Jan 2019 #5
trump only has the authority granted to him by congress Gothmog Jan 2019 #8
He will learn malaise Jan 2019 #11
Trump can't declare a national emergency and build his wall because Congress would still need to app Gothmog Jan 2019 #17
we have several national emergencies in place Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #35
Maybe he can borrow Mit's magic pants? BSdetect Jan 2019 #13
Thank You, Senator Reed!! Cha Jan 2019 #10
Great statement!! Sugar Smack Jan 2019 #12
Thank you, Senator Reed saidsimplesimon Jan 2019 #16
GOP Senator Explains Why Trump Can't Declare A National Emergency And Build His Wall TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #18
Has the lawlessness and treason from this POS Russian mole POTUS reached impeachment level yet? workinclasszero Jan 2019 #19
Well, he's a Democrat. The Republicans don't listen to the Democrats. I was hoping... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #20
Awesome. lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #22
Call it what it is... yuiyoshida Jan 2019 #26
So Reed's demand is that Trumpy make a LIST? Eyeball_Kid Jan 2019 #28
It WILL be a national emergency if he does this, just not in the way he thought jmowreader Jan 2019 #29
"treating the Pentagon like a campaign piggy bank" FSogol Jan 2019 #31
This is still snort Jan 2019 #39
Trmp is a man who refuses to take "No" for an answer. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #40
Trump is so stupid he doesn't realize he may be losing more of his base than gaining followers by Doitnow Jan 2019 #53
IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE orangecrush Jan 2019 #42
k&R BlueJac Jan 2019 #43
If he is able to declare such an emergency, the only barrier to it will be the generals. Texin Jan 2019 #44
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #45
McConnell The Wizard Jan 2019 #47
Ooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah! calimary Jan 2019 #49
Yes...thanks for posting.just saw this today...Sat afternoon....k and r.. Stuart G Jan 2019 #51
Add that Trump threat to the list of reasons for impeachment. nt oasis Jan 2019 #52

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
21. It damn well is.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

The next step to a totalitarian dictatorship.

I saw this while on the Eliptical at the gym. I damn near fell off.

I can't spell elyptacile

malaise

(268,885 posts)
23. I'm glad his response was so swift
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jan 2019

This lunatic has to be stopped and every treasonous enabler must be locked up

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
34. But "they're bringing drugs; they' re rapists..."
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jan 2019

in Trump's mind. Also they're mostly turning left , instead of right

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. He sorts of flies under the net of publicity.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jan 2019

Really competent guy, but sort of a little unknown when compared to bigger lights. I even got his state wrong, he is so much like Senator Carper.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
50. He was very good in the Kavanaugh hearing. Other than that, he's working behind the scenes.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jan 2019

Competently. He’s got intelligence and strength.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
46. Mittens has apparently lost the kittens he should be having
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 11:17 AM
Jan 2019

But we already knew how little his "standing up to Trump" act was worth.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
5. It's a Trumped Up Presidency.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jan 2019

A trumped up motherfucker creating a trumped up emergency to pander yo a trumped up base and sell them some trumped up monument to his trumped up glory.

He isn’t going to do any of this. He’s posturing in his trumped up little way.

Gothmog

(145,086 posts)
8. trump only has the authority granted to him by congress
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:00 PM
Jan 2019

trump does not have the magical power to do anything he wants

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
18. GOP Senator Explains Why Trump Can't Declare A National Emergency And Build His Wall
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jan 2019

.

Sen. James Lankford (R-OK) explained that Congress appropriates the funds, even in an emergency, so Trump can’t get any money for his wall without congressional approval.

James Lankford said on MSNBC’s MTP Daily, “I’m going to have to see where that authority is coming from. Obviously congress delegates those funds and appropriates funds specifically for specific purposes. The president does have some reprogramming authority. That typically has to come back to Congress to get additional approval on. He is very passionate about this as an emergency, this needs to be resolved.”


https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/04/lankford-trump-wall.html

Hah! Suck it Trump!

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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Has the lawlessness and treason from this POS Russian mole POTUS reached impeachment level yet?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jan 2019

How long can we sit by and watch this bloody f****** moron destroy democracy and shit all over the rule of law and the Constitution?

We HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! I don't give a damn if the Senate convicts or not!

The new Michigan congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib gets it, do we need to wait till Trump burns down the white house and takes hostages??

Oh wait he's already got child hostages in his Kiddie concentration camps and has killed two of them already!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Well, he's a Democrat. The Republicans don't listen to the Democrats. I was hoping...
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jan 2019

I was hoping that a Republican Senator would respond in that way.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
28. So Reed's demand is that Trumpy make a LIST?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jan 2019

Talk about dreamland. Trumpy can’t string ten words together to make a coherent sentence. His attention span only compares favorably to a goldfish. And he’s supposed to put together a list that has nothing to do with money laundering?

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
29. It WILL be a national emergency if he does this, just not in the way he thought
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jan 2019

If Trump attempts to divert already-allocated defense funds to his wall without congressional approval, he will have become a full-blown Tinhorn Dictator and a Domestic Enemy. The Founding Fathers were very much against Tinhorn Dictators, and the oaths of enlistment and commissioning that all military members swear out require us to defend the country against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

I would never recommend that the 82nd Airborne should go to Washington, enter the White House, capture this entire administration and put them up against the wall...there are well-defined procedures for removing a tyrannical president from his office, and if the Republican Party has a grain of patriotism left in their corrupt little bodies, they damn well better cooperate with us in sending him away. Yes, I know the Republicans have the right to have a president of their party in office, if he wins the election. This 8-ball is no president.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
40. Trmp is a man who refuses to take "No" for an answer.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jan 2019

In his entire life he has always gotten what he has wanted. He has never been told "No" that he has not found a way around it. Now, he is being told "No" and he refuses to accept it. So, like he has always done, he is pushing the envelope to find any way possible to get what HE wants. Like a bumper car, he will keep going, in search of another way to finance his stupid wall. Now, he is proposing declaring a national emergency, which grants the presidency a wide latitude of possibilities.

In the mean time, he is holding 800,000 federal employees hostage. They cannot give him what he wants. Yet, they are the ones bearing the brunt of his bile. He is punishing them for something they had no part in, cannot give him and will not be any better off for all of his pandering to his base of knuckle-dragging, toothless morons.

What he is doing to these people is morally-indefensible. Meanwhile, Bitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy sit on the sorry asses doing nothing to help these folks. Remember this in 2020 because we need on hang this on them like an albatross.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
53. Trump is so stupid he doesn't realize he may be losing more of his base than gaining followers by
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jan 2019

insisting on the stupid wall.

Another thing----on one hand he says the people affected by the shutdown are Dems and then in another statement he says most of them are followers and supporters. Can't be both.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
44. If he is able to declare such an emergency, the only barrier to it will be the generals.
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jan 2019

It may well be that the military will have to implement a soft coup to keep him in check, because it's crystal clear that the supine Senate rethugs *led* by #2 Putin puppet, McConnell, will not check him from his baser deeds.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
47. McConnell
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

is running interference for Trump in the Senate because he's compromised. Thus the Senate is a useless governing body that serves no purpose. It's up to the Republican Senate to replace McConnell with someone Trump can't threaten.

calimary

(81,194 posts)
49. Ooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah!
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 01:29 PM
Jan 2019

That’s the way, Dems! Do it! Say it! Go there! Don’t mince words or backtrack or apologize or try to “be nice.”

This is a new day and we SHOULD BE fighting in a new way: THIS way.

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