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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreat post on Facebook: "Democratic nominees are not clay pigeons."
Our job is not to shoot them.
Our job is NOT, the second we see them cross the sky, to reach out for the gun being handed to us by conservatives (because duh, conservatives and guns) and take aim, and blast them, one by one out of the air, for not being absolutely perfect.
Not likeable enough. BOOM.
Not an inspiring enough speaker. BOOM.
Said that awkward thing that one time. BOOM.
I wouldn't want to have a beer with them. BOOM.
Too old. BOOM. Too female. BOOM. Too white. BOOM.
Not a fucking flawless progressive superhero. BOOM.
Because what happens next? We shoot the candidates down. We degrade them. We belittle them. We smear them. Then we hand the gun to the media. They do the same. They hand the gun to the conservatives. They do the same. Then the bots start reloading. BOOM. BOOM. BOOM.
And then at the end of primary season, we have to pick up the shattered remains of whoever got the most votes and attempt to glue them back together into a candidate who can win the general election.
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Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Bookmarked. Very very good post. THANKS!
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Progressive or liberal they have my vote.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)and so far I don't see any!
akraven
(1,975 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Someone with a policy agenda who is ready to lead the sweeping reforms we need.
Someone like FDR who got things done like the New Deal and Social Security.
Someone like LBJ, who got things done like the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
I know this will be controversial, but here are some Dem candidates that actually have a real policy PLAN.
- Elizabeth Warren. She did CFPB. Shes got a ton of good plans and a proven track record.
- Bernie Sanders has a real plan, but in the past he doesnt have a great history of getting things done. Im torn on him. Hes as good a policy communicator as Warren, which is why the right is scared stiff about him and smears him. But I dont know about him getting stuff done.
(Im staying positive here so I wont run through all possible candidates.)
Others of interest: Cory Booker, Eric Holder. Not sure who else has the ability to pass another equivalent of the Civil Rights Act, or Social Security.
Who else? Who else has a history of leading legislation, from either branch?
CincyDem
(6,336 posts)...we seem to neeed to love EVERYTHING about our candidate of choice while Republicans are happy to like ANYTHING about their candidate.
Great OP. Thank you.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Did we need Joe Lieberman supporting Dubya's wars?
That's what we got by putting someone in office whom the party should have rejected utterly.
So there IS a line somewhere that's not worth crossing.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)CincyDem
(6,336 posts)I didnt mean to suggest we just take anything and I can see how it reads that way. Im just saying lets settle for great vs holding out for perfect. Joe wasnt even passable.
But yeah. Theres a line somewhere up there and a lot of great candidates are above it.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)And then they work behind the scenes to do better next time.
Thats the key approach we should follow.
Lets say Beto gets nominated. If we were the GOP wed go balls to the wall for him, then start talking about how the next candidate should be different.
volstork
(5,399 posts)Now is not the time to harp on progressive "purity."
We need Democrats in every position of power we can put them in.
Blue1963
(77 posts)Not Trump.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)pecosbob
(7,533 posts)that divide us as a community, whether they are 'news' or not.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,250 posts)Stupid GOPer arguments that seem to be aimed at making sure we have GOPer-approved candidates. I want RWNJs to wail and gnash their teeth at our candidates, just as they did at the idea of Nancy Pelosi being Speaker.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)and then unhide after the primary... I'm a truth teller and got my one and only ever "post removed" ( been here since early 2001) for stating the obvious, so I'm not participating here much these days...politics is a mean game
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)I couldn't care less how "pure" our candidate is.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)FSogol
(45,446 posts)BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)Im off Facebook since 2016. I really agree with these sentiments, though. Thanks for sharing.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)For example, Kirsten Gillibrand, people like her who I feel hurt the Democratic party by jumping the gun on Al Franken must be rejected, why should anyone give her a pass?
People who contributed to her campaign in the past stopped doing it after the Franken fiasco, and they have promised to never support her.
As with any candidate or anyone who wants to run for office, our due diligence is paramount, these people must be studied, their actions (votes) must be analyzed and then be accepted or shot down.
I agree that the analysis must be done in a way that no ammunition is given to the repubs, but lets make sure we all support people who can really win, and who represent real democratic values.
I like Adam Schiff, and with a VP like Kamala Harris, or Elizabeth Warren, that would be a great ticket.