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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts) Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:32 PM Jan 2019

Re: "Emergency powers": Should we be worried? For some reason I think we should be worried?

.....Maybe we should be worried?

I dunno. The Madman says such crazy stuff all the time and half of the time it means nothing in the end.

But the other half of the time....I mean, the guy claimed he was going to separate families at the border. And as crazy as it sounds, that’s exactly what he did.

So should the Madman bandying around the words “emergency powers” cause us to take pause and notice?

Or is it just Trumpian bullshit?

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Re: "Emergency powers": Should we be worried? For some reason I think we should be worried? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2019 OP

Right there w you. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #1

For Trump Turbineguy Jan 2019 #2

Here is waht we know, rump and his fans are not patriots and will do anything to harm Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #3

He definitely could do it Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #4

I am somewhat worried. just shocked maybe. And I thought nothing the blimpy riversedge Jan 2019 #5

Definitely cause for serious concern...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #6

GOP Senator Explains Why Trump Can't Declare A National Emergency And Build His Wall TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #7

And then there's the sen Jack Reed statement: Sugar Smack Jan 2019 #10

That's really good framing... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #14

People like this are the reason I'll sleep better tonight. Sugar Smack Jan 2019 #16

Donald Trump stands little chance of winning the GOP nomination dalton99a Jan 2019 #8

Here's What Worries Me About This..... global1 Jan 2019 #9

Read the comments above... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #15

All he has to do trev Jan 2019 #11

I have been worried since the fucker was elected. SamKnause Jan 2019 #12

This. So much this. CrispyQ Jan 2019 #13

Yes. sinkingfeeling Jan 2019 #17

The Framers customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #18

Yes, you, and we, should be worried... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #19

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)

1. Right there w you.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:34 PM

Jan 2019

Remember under Pres Obama? Evrytime you turned around these guys were saying Obama was going to institute martial law...oh no...its possee commitatus....he'll call off the elections....on and on.....Projection gets so GD old.

Turbineguy

(37,296 posts)

2. For Trump

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:35 PM

Jan 2019

not getting his way is an emergency. He's president, so it's a national emergency.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)

3. Here is waht we know, rump and his fans are not patriots and will do anything to harm

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:36 PM

Jan 2019

the nation, including this vile act of racism and this ATTACK on our military and our service members.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)

4. He definitely could do it

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:37 PM

Jan 2019

Link to tweet

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riversedge

(70,094 posts)

5. I am somewhat worried. just shocked maybe. And I thought nothing the blimpy

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:39 PM

Jan 2019

trump could say or do would shock me.

2naSalit

(86,378 posts)

6. Definitely cause for serious concern...nt

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:39 PM

Jan 2019

TheBlackAdder

(28,169 posts)

7. GOP Senator Explains Why Trump Can't Declare A National Emergency And Build His Wall

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:40 PM

Jan 2019

Sen. James Lankford (R-OK) explained that Congress appropriates the funds, even in an emergency, so Trump can’t get any money for his wall without congressional approval.

James Lankford said on MSNBC’s MTP Daily, “I’m going to have to see where that authority is coming from. Obviously congress delegates those funds and appropriates funds specifically for specific purposes. The president does have some reprogramming authority. That typically has to come back to Congress to get additional approval on. He is very passionate about this as an emergency, this needs to be resolved.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/04/lankford-trump-wall.html

Hah! Suck it Trump!

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Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)

10. And then there's the sen Jack Reed statement:

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:44 PM

Jan 2019

https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/releases/reed-opposes-trump-administrations-plan-to-declare-national-emergency-and-use-defense-dollars-to-pay-for-wall

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)

14. That's really good framing...

Reply to Sugar Smack (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:13 PM

Jan 2019

...presenting it as Trump “attempting to take money away from our troops.”

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)

16. People like this are the reason I'll sleep better tonight.

Reply to regnaD kciN (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:33 PM

Jan 2019

We're bombarded with so much insanity from the WH chaos, a little clarity goes a long way for me! It reminds me that there are people who will simply not let martial law happen in this case.

dalton99a

(81,406 posts)

8. Donald Trump stands little chance of winning the GOP nomination

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:41 PM

Jan 2019

global1

(25,226 posts)

9. Here's What Worries Me About This.....

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:43 PM

Jan 2019

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If the Dems continue to hold fast with 'no wall' and Trump is backed further into a corner - I fear that the Hannity's, Limbaugh's, Coulter's and Ingraham's will telegraph to Trump that he doesn't need the Dems to keep his promise of the wall - that he could do it himself.

Remember the last time they embarrassed Trump on the wall. That led to the current shutdown. He's easily had by those Conservative mouthpieces - and I fear he will cave to them and invoke the Emergency Power.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)

15. Read the comments above...

Reply to global1 (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:20 PM

Jan 2019

Sure, he can order the wall to be built, but he can’t order money to be appropriated to pay for it. Such funding would have to come from Congress (including the Democratic House). Otherwise, if Donnie wants his wall so bad, he’s going to have to figure out how to cut $5.8 billion from existing defense funding.

trev

(1,480 posts)

11. All he has to do

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:44 PM

Jan 2019

is invoke the Executive Orders that are already in place.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)

12. I have been worried since the fucker was elected.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:48 PM

Jan 2019

He is insane.

His cult is insane.

The politicians that support him are insane.

All of them are evil and insane.

They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)

13. This. So much this.

Reply to SamKnause (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:52 PM

Jan 2019

Too many of my friends feel safe now that the dems have the House. We aren't even close to out of the woods.

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)

17. Yes.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:00 PM

Jan 2019

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

18. The Framers

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 11:56 PM

Jan 2019

made the presidency a powerful office, and Trump is only starting to figure out what powers he has.

Clearly, he relishes the pardon power, he has yet to use the veto power, and I'm afraid that he will overuse it for the next two years.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)

19. Yes, you, and we, should be worried...

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:33 AM

Jan 2019

That is moving strongly into authoritarian territory. Calling a fake emergency about border incursions is basically how Hitler started WWII in Europe (Japan had been fighting WWII in the Pacific/Asia theater since the mid 30's).

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