By far more carbon neutral energy sources ... whilst maintaining something REMOTELY APPROACHING the standard of living we currently enjoy ... as a result of their exclusive utilization.

Which is a FAR, FAR from 'proven supposition' ... at this juncture.

Just sayin' ...

The production from the electrical grid at a given moment is a small portion of total energy usage overall.

You also have to calculate how much initial fossil energy it took to create all the new 'fossil free' electrical grid components (turbines, solar cells, batteries, etc), how much fossil energy it took to deliver them all their locations (planes, trains, ships, semi-trucks, etc), how much petrol did the workers use to drive to where these items were installed, how much petrol and other fossil energy will be used to maintain them, etc, etc.

You think China didn't burn a ton of coal to MAKE those solar panels they're using in Germany or France or wherever you're talking about? You think plenty of diesel wasn't burned on ships and in semi-trucks to deliver to Germany? You think every home and factory in Germany is heated or powered with Electricity, not natural gas? And that there's no petrol-driven cars and diesel trucks there? You think the goods in the shops didn't arrive there on diesel-powered ships, and get transported to the shops in diesel-powered trucks? Think all the groceries in the grocery stores were produced with 'renewable energy', in all their sources, all over the world?

Fact is, nothing is actually 'renewable' in the way that people like to imagine that it is, quite frankly. There's ALWAYS fossil fuel-stocks involved all throughout the processes as they exist today.

And do you have any idea how much fossil fuel would be required to retro-fit all the worlds planes, trains, container ships, semi-trucks, harvesters, tractors, backhoes, and automobiles ... to all run on 'renewable' electricity? And THEN to produce the needed solar panels and wind turbines and batteries to POWER all of them? A freaking STAGGERING AMOUNT. And then when you consider their needed maintainance, battery replacement, etc?

It's not even REMOTELY proven this can be done ... in a way that doesn't turn out, in the end, to require MORE fossil energy.

No offense, but you're mistaken if you think anything of the sort is 'proven'.

"And do you have any idea how much fossil fuel would be required to retro-fit all the worlds planes, etc. ... to all run on 'renewable' electricity? "

You'll then provide us with the objective numbers and cost/benefit analysis, with initial capital and energy outlay versus the 5, 10 and 30 year analysis projections, yes?

Ergo, the burden of 'proof' ... is not on me.

education of girls, and autonomy of women. All of these things slow birth rates, but without an onerous top-down mandate like China's one child policy.

Per person resource usage is one critical variable. Another is population size.

Sad in many ways, but true.

Best thing to do now is start preparing for changes in weather and rising sea levels.

Probably a lot more than a 70% top marginal rate.

My overall point is if you accept the findings that climate change represents an existential threat to humanity, either prevention of it from happening or adjusting to its effects, will require radical change. Recycling plastic bottles is not going to get it done.