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Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:11 PM Jan 2019

The U.S. has never elected 4 consecutive 2 term Presidents

There have been 3 consecutive 2 term Presidents but only twice; Jefferson, Madison & Monroe and Clinton, Bush & Obama. But there have never been 4 consecutive 2 term Presidents.

Doesn't mean that it is impossible but it does go against the historical trend.

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The U.S. has never elected 4 consecutive 2 term Presidents (Original Post) Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Jan 2019 #1
Thanks nt Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #2
There a wild card here though: sandensea Jan 2019 #3
Probability does not work that way jberryhill Jan 2019 #4
I'm not talking about probability Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #5
If that Timewas Jan 2019 #6
Trump wasn't even elected th first time! triron Jan 2019 #7
Neither was Baby Bush. Crunchy Frog Jan 2019 #9
And the US has never elected customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #8

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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
3. There a wild card here though:
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:24 PM
Jan 2019

Electronic vote flipping.

It's no secret one of the GOPee's long-term goals is to impose Saddam-like elections, where they'd win no matter what.

I just hope to go the pertinent authorities are extra vigilant in 2020, as they seem to have been last November.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Probability does not work that way
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:34 PM
Jan 2019

The sample space is too low for there to be any "statistical rule" on that.

A simpler way to look at it is to hypothesis test on the basis that any incumbent president running for re-election has around a 50% chance of being re-elected. (which is accurate enough at roughly 22 out of 45)

So given that terms are limited to two, you are looking at relatively low a priori probability event in the first place - i.e. the a priori probability of getting a run of four 50% probability events, which is around 1 in 16. However, the probability of any single re-election remains at 50%.

In other words, you can't say, after a run of three two-termers, that the odds of re-election of the current incumbent is 1 in 16. It does not work that way. It remains 50%.

That's like saying it is very improbable for a roulette wheel to come up black five times in a row, so if it comes up black four times in a row, then you somehow have better odds by betting red on the fifth spin. That is probably one of the most common misconceptions about probability. Vegas loves people who think that way.

These are successive independent events, not joint events.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. And the US has never elected
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jan 2019

someone who has not either served in a government position, including a military general.

Until two years ago. The old "rules" probably never were rules, if they keep being broken.

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