Thank him for 'us.'

And 'welcome.'

Today I asked my father, a 30 year veteran, if he believes trump knows more than the generals when it comes to military and he said he might know more. I asked him if I claimed to know more than he knows after 30 years and he laughed. No problem Defending trumps nasty Ass.

if he ever learns about it. glad your father came around but wow. there's so much more wrong with both trump and republicans ... sigh

It's difficult to know what's going to resonate with any particular person, and I wouldn't have guessed that environmental degradation was the tipping point for a career defense contractor Republican. But there it is.

I only go to court when I know I'm 100% innocent.

On the 3 occasions I've gone, I've always been surprised at which piece of evidence or testimony ends up persuading the judge. But I've won every time.

It interesting to see stories like this and see what it takes for each person to crack.

more desperate on rump's part. Just wait and see...

Good work and God bless!

coming from TRUMPRAVDA, er, Fox "News," Rush, or the big fat liar himself as "fake." Congrats for getting through to him, and welcome to DU.

Good one!

It may be economics reasons that cause one to take back support, it might be the realization that he's not moral in any way, it might be the treatment of refugee children, it could be the obvious and constant lies, or, like your father, it could be the destruction of our natural habitat.

But it is happening little by little. The base is shrinking and horrified by what they supported.

Everyone has something they hold sacred so it shouldn’t be hard for Trump to offend everybody sooner or later.

Welcome your father to the SANE side.

own supporters one by one...since rump is hitting every issue he's bound to get around to everybody.

Come to visit our small organic farm every fall. We had to keep an eye out because they came and went so quickly. My wife was the first to notice their annual visits. They looked like dry leaves flying back onto the trees........They didn't come this year.

Some people need a wake up call, as the world loses animals and insects, to realize things can get a whole lot worse. And we have to stop supporting those who destroy it.

Then the only supporters 45 will have left will be hardcore racists/whacko evangelicals.

I looked it up one time and there were hundreds but they were so technical it would take some digging.

We should form a working group and each take a handful and research what they are and what the implications are.

Any Democrat running in 2020 should be privy to this information because it will be a brag fest on their side. In fact I would love to see some commercials about this. A child wanting to swim in a lake that former presidents had protected from poison, and now there is nothing to help protect them because of trump. Anything like this would be immensely effective.

That ad would indeed be tremendously effective. If you want to peel off Republicans, information about how their party’s policies have ruined fishing spots, hunting grounds, and boating opportunities can be effective as well.

I look to organizations like the Union of Concerned Scientists, Sierra Club, Wilderness Watch, and others to keep tabs on the (sorry) state of the environment.

This list has a few more:
https://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/environmental-policy/environmental-nonprofit-organizations-zmgz14amzsto

to your Dad. Nothing will to too many people.

I hope I'm around when trump gets what's coming to hm.

Many will never abandon him. They are too invested in the racism and misogyny. And the religious nuts are a totally lost cause. Cause Jesus.

But we do not need all of them. If even 10% of his base is shed it is over for him. And he and the Senate know it.

I have family who seems to think Trump walks on water. We wonder, "How can they still support him? What do they think he has in fact accomplished? How do they think anything he does is in our best interest as a nation?" My only conclusion is they see and hear all things Trump only through a filter of rightwing media -- and if they DO happen to hear some truth, they dismiss it as liberal propaganda or "fake news" (because that's what all Republicans are taught).

So, how did your dad come across the light that led him out of the cave?

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I'm working on a BS Civil Engineering, with the goal of working for the Dept. of Interior. When he asks me how classes are going, I tell him I have concerns getting a job because [fill in latest environmental news].

I also got him to quit supporting Pete Sessions because of Sessions push to remove protections for pre-existing conditions. I'm on my third round of cancer, and let him know that things that Sessions and other Republicans are doing would prevent me from ever having insurance. My medical bills in 2018 exceeded $380,000, but my costs after insurance were about $11,000. Not having insurance would have literally been the death of me.

I'm hoping, but I also know what reality looks like. The chemo for my colon cancer gave me diabetes, and I'm looking at pancreatic failure. I've also since gained an as-of-yet unidentified mass in my neck which is slowly strangling me as the doctors try to figure it out. I've had to quit working due to everything going on.

BUT... because of the ACA, not only do I have insurance, my rate dropped from $303 a month to $35. I'm getting it worked on.

I've always said I'm gonna die on my feet and laughing. So far, I'm still laughing.

I also have a young family member dealing with serious health issues, and I wish it could be me instead. It's not fair when it happens to young people.

I hope you stick around this site. There are lots of nice people to talk to, whenever you feel like it.

Again, sending you another

The funny thing is I've been READING the site since Dubya became president, and I've been posting for oh, half a decade. I just don't say much.

My dad voting Democrat is enough of a world shift I wanted to share it.

... but glad you've been able to help your dad come around.



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Good job on patiently talking with him over the years -- I'm sure it wasn't easy.

Welcome to DU, TXPaganBanker!

I believe this is how we change minds. Within our own local network where we have influence we calmly persist with reality.

I flipped my brother before 2016. It was an amazing personal victory and he still despises Trump. He's getting along much better with the rest of the family now, which appears to have changed his overall attitude about his former ideological beliefs. He even cracks Mitch McConnell jokes regularly now.

I’m glad you worked on your dad. I hope he does vote for a Democrat, but if he only refuses to vote for Trump it’s a win.

So glad to hear your good news and am so sorry for all of your troubles and difficulties.