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babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:55 PM Jan 2019

After boxing himself in on shutdown, Trump tells aides to find way out that doesn't disgrace him

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/7/1824223/-After-boxing-himself-in-on-shutdown-Trump-asks-aides-to-find-way-out-that-doesn-t-disgrace-him

After boxing himself in on shutdown, Trump tells aides to find way out that doesn't disgrace him
Kerry Eleveld
Daily Kos Staff
Monday January 07, 2019 · 2:19 PM EST


Donald Trump has personally led two negotiations with Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. During the first one in late December, he declared that he would be "proud" to shut down the government over his precious border wall. During the second one last week, Trump threatened the shutdown could last for "months or even years" and later bragged to reporters that he "absolutely" said that.

But now that nearly 1 million federal workers are furloughed or working without pay, the national parks have become literal wastelands, and airport chaos is ensuing, Trump's getting skittish and wants his aides to find him a way out of this gigantic mess, according to the Wall Street Journal.

During a private meeting with aides at Camp David on Sunday, Mr. Trump said he wanted them to come up with a resolution to the shutdown fight that would reopen the government without him appearing to have capitulated to Democrats,


So Trump doesn't want to be seen as capitulating? Well, no shit, Sherlock. Welcome to Politics 101—you don't box yourself into an impossible position without having a vision for your endgame and leaving room for a compromise that you can play up as a "win." But instead of taking time to envision his escape in advance, master negotiator Trump went into those meetings guns blazing and delivered a shoot-em-up routine that landed him in a bunker without any backup. Total “stable genius.”

Even as that Camp David meeting unfolded, instead of tamping down expectations for how this would all resolve, Trump's negotiators asked for even MORE money in their weekend meeting with congressional staffers. In the meantime, his surrogates continue to barricade him in the bunker.

“This continues to be the signature campaign issue that he outlined that needs to be fulfilled,” former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told the Journal.

Good god, Trump is bad at this. So very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very f*cking miserably bad at this.
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After boxing himself in on shutdown, Trump tells aides to find way out that doesn't disgrace him (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
Already disgraced and way too late to find an escape of this mess that you alone created. YOU! nt SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #1
worst negotiator ever. obvious from the moment he declared himself the best negotiator ever. unblock Jan 2019 #2
What a fucking IMBECILE. AZ8theist Jan 2019 #20
Hahahahaha! lunatica Jan 2019 #3
Claim you have a medical condition and resign. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #4
That would be nice but... jcgoldie Jan 2019 #9
How about a one way trip to Mother Russia? tanyev Jan 2019 #5
The only way that's gonna happen is if Mitch McConnell Volaris Jan 2019 #6
They are all kompromised, so I don't think that McConnell can help. yardwork Jan 2019 #11
McTurtle can't help............. MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #15
What should one do when your opponent is drowning? honest.abe Jan 2019 #7
Great image! coeur_de_lion Jan 2019 #14
The Art of the Deal?! sheshe2 Jan 2019 #8
No! GetRidOfThem Jan 2019 #21
He f--ks up by not listening to people telling him he's about to make a mistake, then RockRaven Jan 2019 #10
Cheeto is a contrarian - he does the opposite of what they tell him to do FakeNoose Jan 2019 #19
Okay, we'll remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey ThoughtCriminal Jan 2019 #12
Smocky eyes hasn't been much help so far The Genealogist Jan 2019 #13
They trying w $7 Billion increased ask for DHS. So R Senate can approve it to counter Pelosi. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #16
Only way to only need "50 votes" is if they do that by reconcilliation BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #22
Proof that government can't work if you put enough effort into making it not work. ffr Jan 2019 #17
Takeaway? Trump has no plan, never did. But DU knew that already. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #18
Who knew that getting advice from Rush, Hannity, and Botany Jan 2019 #23
simple solution cojoel Jan 2019 #24
Not to worry -- all great generals are smart enough to make their battle plans NCjack Jan 2019 #25
A way out is easy. Just resign. Amaryllis Jan 2019 #26
He's desperate. He could do anything at this point. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #27
Declare victory and then surrender unconditionally! struggle4progress Jan 2019 #28

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. Hahahahaha!
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jan 2019

The only people you need to fool are your supporters! The rest of us and whoever keeps leaking these stories already know the truth.



What a fucking idiocrat!

tanyev

(42,523 posts)
5. How about a one way trip to Mother Russia?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:03 PM
Jan 2019

A Go Fund Me would raise enough to charter a private jet covered in gold.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
6. The only way that's gonna happen is if Mitch McConnell
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:05 PM
Jan 2019

decides that the Republican Senate is going to (wait for it) fall on that Capitulation Sword in his place.

Yeah, I can't stop laughing, either lol...

Either he mans up and owns this for everyone, or they all get to own it together. Unless they're all komprom(ised), they owe him not a goddamn thing, and will act accordingly.

Talk about an own-goal smdh heh

MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
15. McTurtle can't help.............
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

he's in another corner in the same room IQ45 painted himself into. He's got a bucket-full of cash from Vlad and the NRA and he knows that if IQ45 goes down he might escape from the stink-eye. He also knows that he could go down with IQ45 - not a great thought for him either.
So, McTurtle hangs strong hoping that IQ45 hangs strong, or they'll all go swirling down the drain straight to hell.
Oh, and that cackling sound you just heard, that's Speaker Pelosi pulling the stopper out of the drain!

RockRaven

(14,915 posts)
10. He f--ks up by not listening to people telling him he's about to make a mistake, then
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jan 2019

makes the mistake whilst insisting he meant to do that, then doubles down, then demands other people bail him out. Business as usual in Trumpland.

FakeNoose

(32,599 posts)
19. Cheeto is a contrarian - he does the opposite of what they tell him to do
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:48 PM
Jan 2019

Somebody in the White House needs to figure this out, and start leading him by giving him "opposite" advice.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
12. Okay, we'll remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

Check with Putin first, but mention that we'll get you a roll of chainlink from Lowes.


The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
13. Smocky eyes hasn't been much help so far
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

She got called out on FAUX for the massive whopper she was peddling on there, I've seen. I'm sure though that someone will find a way to polish this latest turd, though, so that the deplorables will sufficiently blinded by the sheen.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
16. They trying w $7 Billion increased ask for DHS. So R Senate can approve it to counter Pelosi.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jan 2019

By giving that to the Senate to vote on, it is an active counter to Speaker Pelosi's legislation passed, which was the version the Senate had previously improved.

This counter is a ploy for a media offensive that will go something like this: "but, but, see! All the Democrat {sic} Senators voted for OPEN BORDERS! See! Told ya! See!".

It does put McCONnell on the spot to get 50 Senators in line to vote for tRump's request. If he can't do that, then the border wall is dead, Jim.


NB: my speculation only.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
22. Only way to only need "50 votes" is if they do that by reconcilliation
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jan 2019

which itself has limitations and can only be used for 3 bills (of differing subjects) per FY. Otherwise they don't have enough votes to get cloture (i.e., 60).

ffr

(22,665 posts)
17. Proof that government can't work if you put enough effort into making it not work.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:42 PM
Jan 2019


Although, I think it's been the GOP's plan all along to gamble on Dems caving to M$M repeating the GOP's calls by this Friday. Unfortunately for them, their gamble isn't going to pay off...this time, even with the M$M's complicit help.

cojoel

(953 posts)
24. simple solution
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jan 2019

(avoiding the minor detail that he is already significantly disgraced for this and many other issues)

Trump aides merely need to orchestrate the following, quietly passing along to Republican members the message that the m*****f***** supports it.

Have the Senate make some stated to be important, but otherwise insignificant change to the bill (or more bold, like fund everything through September 30). Senate passes it overwhelmingly, like 80-15 or so.

Send this modified bill to the House, which also passes it by a huge margin, like 380 - 45

Send it to the president, who signs it, in front of cameras saying how he tried is best, and will continue to work for funding options (like getting Mexico to pay for it).

And then, never, ever talk about it again.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
25. Not to worry -- all great generals are smart enough to make their battle plans
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jan 2019

with a retreat path. Oh, wait! The MFer is not smarter than our great, smart generals. He can't even out maneuver the House DEMs.

The president's staffer who solves this puzzle is a genius. To all of those who fail: "You're fired. Get'em out of here!!!"

Should be coming to a head soon. The Airline Pilots are getting antsy -- a wildcat strike is likely.

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