BUT IT'S SOMETHING HE CHOSE TO LIE ABOUT to Mueller, jeopardizing his plea agreement.

Which is a point of fact I've not seen mentioned. But that's EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.

He KNEW he HAD to lie about that shit. Too bad for him, Mueller already knew the facts ...

Manafort is BUSTED, dead to rights.

Question is, given that he conveniently 'entered late' in campaign, was broke and desperate at the time, plus Trump fired him ... can these actions legitimately be laid at the rest of the Campaign's feet? CLEARLY Manafort won't cop to THAT, unless he HAS to ... otherwise, no pardon, and Putin on his ass.

I'd have little doubt that, at minimum, Manafort talked to Trump and 'got the okay for all this', and if Trump wasn't 'Teflon Don' that'd be enough to bring him down ... but for SOME REASON the standards for this asshole are different, and GOP Senators are going to require proof that this was TRUMP'S plan. Which, handily for Trump, it likely was not.

And based on what we've seen so far, Mueller already knows all about it.

Even if he chose to "come clean," he's already on the record as having lied to prosecutors after promising cooperation as part of his plea deal. That automatically makes him a highly-unreliable witness. Even if he were to say, "yes, I received this data directly from Mr. Trump himself, with orders to give it to the Russians," it probably wouldn't stand up in court -- everyone would just assume a proven liar was cooking up another lie to earn himself a lighter sentence.

Granted, my use of 'verb tense' there was a little unclear, but that's what I was getting at. He couldn't then, and he still can't, really.

This right here ... is 'the sinking' that Dumpie spoke of privately. Or part of it, at least.

That mission accomplished..

I mean, this "confidential" polling data was the Trump's property to do with as they saw fit; it wasn't as if it was state secrets or anything. Does the campaign sharing it with the Russians indicate conspiracy? Of course it does...but we all knew the campaign was doing so all along. The only question about any revelations at this point is whether they directly tie Individual-1 to the malfeasance. Otherwise, all it means is that some of his underlings, like Manafort, are looking at long jail terms. Some justice, maybe, but it doesn't do a thing to free us from the Long National Trumpmare.

Response written by don the con ....

“meeting was about adoption”

Puts him right in the middle of it

The Russians used this info to geo target voters in
Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania where just enough votes were garnered to win the election.

They had to have this data to micro manage their disinformation campaign on voters in these specific
areas

This is huge

Conspiracy.

mueller has to prove manafort was following orders, right?

i'm sure i'm missing something, but i think they have to prove that

Period