Truth will out

Perfect

The girl who plays Veruca is PHENOMENAL. Highly recommended.

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I didn't remember that's what she said. Now I get it. (It's been years since I've seen it.)

anyone really thought that Mexico would pay for the stupid wall!

Trumpers are that gullible, and racist.

In the end, it didn't matter. It was the fever pitch of the call of the wild. Were details wrong? They didn't care. Here was a man who thought like they did..."no more illegals!" (The inference being that the Democrats wanted illegal immigration, which is not true.) He was so bold, so strong, such a deal maker! If anyone could do it, THE GREAT ONE could! Yay! Hopefully Mexico will pay for it. But if not, he'll find a way!

The fever that spreads among cult members when the leader is on his game and spouts foolishness, but spouts it loudly, with confidence, and with assurances. It MUST be true! It HAS to be!

that it is former Republicans who are the most outspoken people against Trump.

I mean Nicole Wallace at 4 PM is just as good as Rachel.

Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson are constantly blistering Trump.

Not a direct quote, but she basically said that at a time like this, we need to transcend party affiliations and do what's best for the country.

The GOP has largely been burned to the ground...even when Trump is gone, it will be a long time before Wilson, Wallace, Schmidt and the rest can "go home" again, if they can at all.

Wilson is frequently vocal on Twitter. He still identifies himself as a Republican who is attempting to ride out the storm.

It's gonna be a long ride, Rick...although he is smart enough to know that things are not going to simply snap back to the "normal" he remembers prior to Trump.

There have been a ton of Democrats that have been very outspoken - Maxine Waters, Ted Lieu, Adam Schiff and many Democratic leaning pundits - have been just as outspoken.

It's just that the media loves to pit Never Trump Republicans like Schmidt, Wilson, Ana Navarro, etc against pro Trump Republicans and watch the fireworks on TV.

No one, other than Rachel, digs into the Trump/Russia conspiracy with more fervor than she does.

Most of the other cable news anchors do what you suggest. Tweety, Anderson Cooper, Wolf, are the dumbest news anchors on the planet. They and others don't have a clue what the Trump crime family has done, what the Trump campaign has done. I will watch Nicole, Ari Melber, Chris Hayes, Rachel, Don Lemon, and from time to time take a peek at Shep Smith.

Congressional Democrats should be outspoken. We need more Maxines who aren't afraid to push for impeachment.

Chris Cuomo of CNN keeps having on the likes of Kellyanne Conway and Anthony Scaramucci??

Nobody selects a better group of experts or pundits to discuss the latest in Trump/Russia than Nicole Wallace. The other shows (Tweety, Cooper, Wolf) refuse to connect the dots and treat every single new piece of information as if it is the first news of questionable activity with Russians.

He was for the invasion of Iraq and Phil Donahue was against it. msnbc fired Donahue and kept Tweety.
I am really surprised that msnbc hasn't fired any anti-Trump anchors.

I remember that when Olbermann, Ratigan, Brashear, Harris/Perry, Uygur,Ed Schultz got fired they were popular. They didn't get fired because of poor ratings, and msnbc is supposed to be liberal, ehh? At least it puts a progressive slant to the right wing narratives, and yes several anchors are straying from the narrative. They better be careful.

So they come at this from a different perspective, and have different goals.

Wallace and Wilson & Scarborough are media pundits. They are freer just to criticize without an end goal. Schiff's goal, for example, has been to shine a light on the sham that was the House of Rep so-called "investigation" run by Devin Nunes. He usually didn't get off track and start talking about Trump's outrageous behavior or comments that didn't relate to the investigation.

But you are right...they sure have stepped up to the plate to shine a light on Trump's and the Republican Party's outrageous behavior and statements at times. Especially Schiff, who appeared on tv a LOT, to spread what he knew about the so-called investigation.

I think that is true. He no longer has the ability to drive the news to his benefit.

Democrats now have people who can change the right wing narratives. Speaker Pelosi can call a press conference and the M$M will show up.
Al Franken was one who could change the narrative, that's why they took him out.
Ocasio-Cortez can change the narrative, we need to watch her back, they are already trying to take her out.

The M$M is not our friend, if it were impartial, Trump would be impeached by now.

has really good guests, and she and Rachel Maddow appear to get along and respect one another alot. Hers is ne of my favorite political shows. That being said, TRMS has the best research, in-depth and revealing analysis, frequently with historical perspective.

John Heileman and Donny Duetch laugh their way through Steve Schmidts tirade yesterday it is my favorite show. Steve look bewildered they were laughing. It was funny.

What has happened to Ari Melber? One of the best fact filled shows he has now wondered into gobbledegook in the last 15 minutes of his show. What is he trying to do? I turn him off.

but I agree, he can be a Jekyll and Hyde. He does understand what's going on though and he usually has good guests on his show.

Half the time he plays dumb about Trump/Russia and he knows better. Why does he give Corsi a platform to tell more obvious lies?

Why is Ari allowing Corsi to go on and on lying like crazy?He had Corsi on again last night and his Rapper schtick wears thin. One night he allowed him to take up half his show.

Probably showing clips but I saw it the first time. That old crook has been scum all his life,along with Roger Stone and Larry Klayman. All bottom feeders. Larry filed his lawsuit against Mueller.

is claiming that "He was the most presidential I have ever seen him"!!What? Because he did not take off on his usual tangent about how EVERYONE agrees with him? Because Ivanka was not perched on his lap? Trying to "look presidential" is yet another quality the orange arsehole does not possess. Fake billionaire, fake president, fake human being.

Trump's reelection campaign advertised the speech. What Trump did was start his 2020 campaign groveling for money. Trump used the Oval office to begin his 2020 campaign, that to me disrespects the office of the president.
I don't give a shit if he sniffled his way through a Steven Miller written speech and didn't go off the teleprompter, using the Oval office for political reasons is anything but presidential.

That day. Patriot names to be turned over. Then another after the speech.

who voted in woman assaulter to the Supreme Court. Fuck off Lindsey. How much Russian blood money did you receive?

I don't know what drumpf has on him, but it must be blazing hot based on the level of abject fear we see on his face.

that Lyndsey did a 180 after playing a round of golf with Trump.

Nail met hammer and Lyndsey folded like a cheap shirt.

"and they have all your emails and everything"

He was in the Oval Office, not a golf course, there was no idling helicopter, he didn't threaten violence against anyone, he didn't shit himself (that we could tell), we couldn't see his clown tie...

I gotta give this one to him, Little Lindsey didn't say Trump looked presidential, but the most presidential he has ever seen.

That's a low bar! We have never seen him act presidential.

Has there ever been a President that has been made more fun of than this abomination we now have? He is such a disgrace to this once great country. That line really made me laugh out loud though.

"the lying liar who lies" is a classic! Reminds me of Senator Franken's book, "Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them."
I'd love to hear what Al thought of last night's debacle!

It would have been so nice to still have Franken to hear from on this!

or there would have been water damage to my keyboard!

It's the beginning of the end of his mystique. Hour after hour, pundit after pundit on TV and cable have ridiculed his speech.
Ridicule ridicule ridicule. I suspect that more than a few GOP senators are ready to concede and open the gov again. It's all so pathetic.

vote with the Democrats on the bill/bills that Speaker Pelosi is going to introduce today. The last time there were 5 for the one bill and 7 for the next.

If more House Republicans break ranks today that is going to put more pressure on McConnell and Republican Senators. We have 3 Senate Republican defectors so far.

and you know that each and every one's #1 priority is to get re-elected.

and Republicans met and vowed to block "everything" he proposes, in other words they vowed to put party over country, I said to myself, this will never work, the American people will see through it. I was absolutely wrong, it worked for the most part. I did not factor in the M$M being complicit with Republicans.

Hopefully, the GOP/Trump party has gone too far and we the people can Make America America Again. We need to obliterate them in 2020, and we need to take back the state Houses to put an end to gerrymandering.

I no longer wait to see what will "change their minds or open their eyes."

We know what a disaster last night's Oval Office throw-up was. That being said, the local right-wing rag ran an on-line survey asking if IQ45 had convinced people that we need "the wall."

(brace yourself - well, no, I'm sure you already know what to expect) - over 50% of respondents answered "yes" and less than 40% answered "no."

These are people that will vote again.

THAT is why it is important that we GET OUT THE VOTE!!!! We have the numbers - we just have to get them to get to the polls!

Failing to translate extortion into success. Even as a crook Trump is a failure.

If there ever was any reason why we *SHOULDN'T* have a wall, that was it!

Oh, I like that.

seen as the death twitch of the wall cult."