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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:42 AM Jan 2019

GOP seeks health care reboot after 2018 losses


BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 01/09/19 06:00 AM EST

Republicans are looking for a new message and platform to replace their longtime call to repeal and replace ObamaCare, after efforts failed in the last Congress and left them empty-handed in the 2018 midterm elections.

Republican strategists concede that Democrats dominated the health care debate heading into Election Day, helping them pick up 40 seats in the House.

President Trump hammered away on immigration in the fall campaign, which helped Senate Republican candidates win in conservative states but proved less effective in suburban swing areas, which will be crucial in the 2020 election.

While Trump is focused on raising the profile of illegal immigration during a standoff over the border wall, other Republicans are quietly looking for a better strategy on health care, which is usually a top polling issue.

“Health care is such a significant part of our economy and the challenges are growing so great with the retirement of the baby boomers and the disruption brought about by ObamaCare that you can’t just cede a critically important issue to the other side,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/424464-gop-seeks-health-care-reboot-after-2018-losses
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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,720 posts)
1. It has been 8 years and NO ideas from Republicans.
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jan 2019

Congressional Republicans have shown us that they are all bluster and no ideas. Yet, they want the money Grubbing Health Insurance companies to make the decisions . That is not moving forward.
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. GOP will NOT mandate insurers cover pre-existing conditions, so they are still clueless
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

the HUGE healthcare issue has but ONE solution and GOP will NOT do it

underpants

(182,595 posts)
4. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jan 2019

Look “Obamacare” in the lexicon is your doing. You were just sure it was a WINNER for you all but people like him, they like it, and it would work better if you all would get the hell out if the way (open Risk Corridors). You all need to stop letting your PR/propaganda lead you around. Propaganda is primarily used to distract those already in you flock.

Didn’t you all learn anything from the “Pelosi” strategy just 2 months ago?

still_one

(92,060 posts)
6. In my view the republicans have boxed themselves into a corner on this one, without contradicting
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

themselves from the last 8 years from opposing the mandate, expansion of Medicaid, to covering pre-existing conditions

This is the opportunity for the Democrats in Congress to push for some kind of universal health care

That couldn't have been done in 2008 because it was a different situation. First of all the votes weren't there for universal health care, the blue dogs made that very clear, and they needed every Democratic vote to get something passed. Second, the Democrats had a very small windown to get something or end up with nothing, and based on what the blue dogs would accept, they did what was necessary.

The situation is different now, and the Democrats ran on healthcare and won the House in a big way in large part due to that. The republicans have nothing at this time. The only thing they have offered is getting rid of the mandate, pre-existing conditions, and offerring catastrophic insurance. It would essentially put things back to what they were before the ACA where there was nothing









marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. Their best strategy is to concede on health care and find another issue.
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jan 2019

They were afraid of Obamacare because they knew it would become popular and difficult to undo. Their feared outcome has occurred. So they just cut their losses and run away.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
8. We'd be happy to have them vote Yes on all the good things that would be
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019

proposed by Madame Speakers HMC. Otherwise, they're just going to keep having to have Teh Sadz on this, and to hell with them for their trouble.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Based upon what one of their "thinkers" said, they have already lost.
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:34 PM
Jan 2019

They still push the line that Obamacare is only bad. In fact, Obamacare was a great idea that just need a few well thought out tweaks. With more people signing up for and resigning up for Obamacare, attacking it is just plain stupid. Maybe they should work with democrats to fix the rougher spots of Obamacare, that will help them much more than their current strategy.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,729 posts)
10. Reboot
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jan 2019

Meaning more of them are going to get booted out of office if they try to fuck with people's healthcare again.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Maybe try to fix it instead of monkey wrench it?
Wed Jan 9, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jan 2019

From the day it was enacted, Republicans have been the implacable enemy of the Affordable Care Act, picking apart every little compromise (individual mandate, Medicare expansion in the states, coverage of women's health, etc.) that turned the bill into the law. Their "solutions" to any problems has simply been to tear up the law and insist on a return to the bad old days of denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions and "cover nothing" catastrophic health insurance policies.

Before any discussion even begins, Democrats need to see concrete proposals and suggestions from Republicans, stuff that they will not change their collective minds about later. During the initial crafting of the legislation, Republicans insisted on keeping insurance companies in the health care industry (for example), and when they got what they wanted, every last one of them voted against the final bill anyway. Not again.

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