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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders Faces Questions About Political Future
Jan. 11, 2019, at 1:14 a.m.
BY STEVE PEOPLES, Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) Allies of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are rallying behind the embattled presidential prospect, even as they reluctantly begin to ponder a painful possibility: a 2020 presidential field without him.
The 77-year-old self-described democratic socialist is the most prominent presidential contender to face a serious setback in the nascent 2020 campaign season. He's been forced to confront a series of reports detailing allegations of sexual harassment of women by male staffers when he ran for president in 2016.
Sanders' loyalists fully expect him to launch a second campaign in the coming weeks. And his broad network of die-hard supporters is hosting hundreds of events across the nation this weekend encouraging him to run.
But the persistent allegations put Sanders in an unenviable political position in the early days of a presidential contest playing out in a #MeToo era that's offered little mercy for those associated with allegations of sexual harassment. While his Democratic competitors tour crucial states and scope out potential campaign headquarters, Sanders spent Thursday apologizing for the behavior of a handful of his 2016 staffers and looking for a new ones to run his 2020 operation should he enter the race.
Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-01-11/bernie-sanders-faces-questions-about-political-future
Cha
(296,873 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Cha
(296,873 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The decision maker.
My biggest question is why anyone who believes in government by the people would consider for a moment a candidate who's proven himself to be as ready as the right to overset the votes of many millions of Democrats in order to win.
Imo, we all have a duty to remember that before deciding if he's the right stuff.
Cha
(296,873 posts)proud of him for being such a "micromanger".
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that were far less complimentary. No one likes their abilities to be undervalued, and some finally took the chance to vent. No sympathy from me, though, knowing at least some of what they supported and enabled.
Speaking of, they're NOT leaking what they know about their former coworker, Tad Devine, and his activities in the campaign.
Cha
(296,873 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:10 PM - Edit history (1)
He claimed fairness and opportunity for women were two of his core campaign principles. I have never worked in a successful company where core principles were not driven into everyone's skull and people told that violations of those principles must be brought before the top leader in the company.
Cha
(296,873 posts)SunSeeker
(51,520 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)A handful? Damn. He's got a lot of splaining to do.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)He's an elderly senator with little to nothing to lose personally. This is his last chance and he has a following.
I've been there and done that with 3 different presidential candidates now in my adult life. The only one I gave a second chance to was Edwards... we all know how that turned out. I still suffer acid reflux when I think of it.
I know a lot about two of our potential candidates this cycle. To the extent I've spoken to them one on one. I'm learning more daily about our other potential and declared candidates. I'm taking it slow and fleshing out and vetting my candidates for 2020. I'm going to be an extremely hard sell.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:12 AM - Edit history (2)
But Ralph Nader got over it, and he had a long career still ahead of him.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)are going to go for Beto O'Rourke this time around. Yes, O'Rourke is more moderate than Bernie, but he has the "cool" factor to him - punk rocker, skateboarder, etc.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That ensures a young, enegetic, higher income, loud crowd with a flexible schedule for an audience.
Cha
(296,873 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Lots of young people, as many as any other group.
betsuni
(25,380 posts)lapucelle
(18,187 posts)snip=========================================================
Despite her concern, Gautney warned Democrats that a 2020 contest without Sanders would inflict serious damage on ambitious plans to shake up health care, education, housing and other liberal priorities.
"Bernie is holding the flank on the left. If he doesn't run for president, then the whole horizon shifts, and universal health care maybe gets taken off the table," Gautney said. "In my view, he is an absolutely necessary part of our political system."
By the way, Ms Gautney needs to brush up on the Democratic Party platform and history. Univeral healthcare has been core principle and party policy goal since 1992. John Conyers's Medicare for All Bill HR 676, introduced in every session of Congress since 2003. had 132 co-sponsors at last count. While Congressman Sanders wasn't an original co-sponsor when it was first introduced 16 years ago, he did get on board quickly.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It won't blind them...
They seriously sound like they need deprogramming.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)if we keep in mind that they are a cult. Like all cultists, they literally think their hero is the savior of the world, and nobody else can do it.
--RoseAnn DeMoro
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not the case last time around.
Being held to the same standards as other candidates is a new test.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Sanders is no longer "new," though. So others who are new will get the pop media glossing and pumping up, and Sanders will get more of the negative "been there, covered that" treatment.
My concern is that much may still be ignored to keep him useful for defeating Democrats. That was his role for both our own right-wing powers and for Putin before, and they're still using him that way.
LexVegas
(6,031 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The kid gloves are off! I think that he's in for quite a surprise at how different things will be this time, and how much more difficult it will be when the real and extreme vetting begins. All I'm saying is that I believe that ALL candidates for national office should be carefully scrutinized from all angles... for many obvious reasons that I don't have time to go into now.
jrthin
(4,834 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)Bernie apologized for sexual assault committed by of one of his most important staffers, the man who led Bernie's field campaigns in key states. Bernie also claimed that he only just learned of a monetary settlement his campaign made to two staffers who were apparently abused by this same campaign leader.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)to copy his tax returns and hand them to the media.
I mean ... give the guy a break!
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)You are gonna love this place..
Apollyonus
(812 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Welcome. Once you feel at home look into getting a star.
George II
(67,782 posts)1. Sexual harassment and abuse.
2. Blatant income inequality.
Either of them alone would be enough to destroy a Democrat's candidacy. But two?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Beto works for me, or Kamala.
Not that the other person was a leader in this, but some saw him that way so we will need a new leader.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I think many will do. Universal healthcare does not mean Medicare for all.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)is how our nominee was maligned in so many ways and with no proof while all this was going on.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)As he should have been last time. I just hope the Democratic Party doesn't let him pull the same stunt as in 2016: become a temporary pretend Democrat to get media attention and of course Party resources. It's not fair to real Democrats, and it looks like we have a nice, deep bench for 2020 if they choose to run.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)on the FallBackFriday segment. She completely nails Bernie. She was scathing about the unequal pay and campaign abuse. He will be seriously vetted!
Cha
(296,873 posts)Thank You for that, RB!
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)didnt want to link.....
But she was excellent. People wont tolerate the lack of accountability anymore.
Good to see you, Cha!
Cha
(296,873 posts)the youtube in a PM from seeing this exchange.
I just saw it! omg.. Fantastic! She hit it out of the park!
Good to see you, too.
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)was priceless.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)she started.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Or write his name in? 2016 all over again. It never ends with zealots.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Remember around 40% of voters did not vote, even if it was only 20% and the other 20% wrote in Bernie, if we get 20% of that 20%, our candidate wins, my guess is our candidate gets 100% of the ones that vote, lots of them are getting their ass burned by Trump.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)All because the Bernie Bros felt cheated? And Bernie tried to rally his base to support HRC, but they weren't having it. Just the simple fact of him throwing his hat into the ring is dangerous as hell. Suppose this time around he gets rejected right off the bat. His base will be furious. Suppose he isn't rejected right away but gets primaried. His base will be furious. The only way I can see keeping his base somewhat mollified is for him not to run at all. I'm sorry, but if he wanted to truly support the Democratic party, he would not run again.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)KPN
(15,637 posts)Bernies gonna run. Get over it. Will he win? I doubt it especially with the organized torpedoing going on daily.
But hes going to run.
TexasTowelie
(111,966 posts)That was evident to me since the general election in 2016 so I don't have anything to "get over." It's an article from the AP, so if I hadn't posted the thread then someone else would. I don't believe in censorship.
If anything, Bernie now has a set of obstacles that he will need to "get over." I still haven't seen anything from Bernie that will attract new voters while his base has diminished based upon responses at DU and on other social media.