The 'proposal' contains no new language on the Dreamers, much less any new ideas for a path to citizenship and safety from being deported.

Why on earth does he think we might be tempted to agree to stuff we've already seen and rejected?

Idiot.

then he keeps the government shut down until his last day in office. And his base lauds him for that, then they find a new champion at the next opportunity, buoyed by how well it worked having Trump as their wrecking ball.

If we take a form of this deal, we get folks safe until the grownups can get back in the White House in 2021. Is it a hostage situation? Perhaps, but even in those situations, the first priority is the safety of the hostages. You can "get" the bad guys by blowing up the plane, but you kill all of the hostages, too.

This is not a deal.

what would be one? Total capitulation by Trump with zero to show for it? Out of the goodness of his heart and with mercy for government workers? In what alternate universe does that Donald Trump exist? Oh, and I'm not Speaker of the House in that one, either.

They are not completely roasted yet, but they are feeling the fire.

McConnell has been sighted and has contradicted himself by stating a bill will be voted on, in spite of it being rejected by Democrats.

Pelosi's approval is higher than Trump's, in spite of a concerted RW propaganda attack that has been relentless.

what about the next time? And there WILL be a next time if the Dems cave.

after Coulter, etc. have all gone bananas over this deal and are trying to recruit a new Trump to primary him?

He makes this deal, and he's up to his ass in alligators over the fallout from the reich-wing talking heads. He may try to salvage his presidency by abandoning the base and sucking up to the Never-Trumpers who have been waiting for him to grow up in the job.

What will he demand from us then, and what will he have left to offer? And, we'll only be a year away from replacing him.

What if Speaker Pelosi and Senator Schumer can extract a two year deal from him? Would you take it, then?

Because you can't reason with an habitual liar. This DU'er says it better than I.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211697270

What's yours? Do you think Trump will someday just sign a continuing resolution with nothing to show for it? If you think Ann Coulter is savaging him now, just wait until that happens!

He's too prideful, too egotistic, and too selfish to ever do such a thing. He has to feel that he got something out of the deal, or he walks away from it. Government workers cannot go for two years without a paycheck.

How do you see a preferable, yet possible, end to this?

Republicans are desperate to co-opt the democrats in funding Trump’s wall.
The GOP absolutely does not want complete credit for such funding.