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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCovington Catholic High School mob from another angle,, over the shoulder of the smirker
shows the size of the mob that's behind the Native American... jumping and chanting
Link to tweet
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I hate being associated with scumbags like these spawn.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)sheshe2
(83,744 posts)As the camera starts to pan a man wearing tribal beads looks on seemingly bewildered with what is happening and a boy looks frightened.
The disrespect of a tribal elder who served his country breaks my heart. My fondest wish would be to slap his smirk off his face.
Demovictory9
(32,448 posts)And it is heartbreaking that it had to be taken in the first place.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)Did the little magat pukes walk away? Were they hauled away? Was Elder Phillips able to leave unscathed? Im late to the game tonight and this is so very upsetting.
Initech
(100,063 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)and everyone with half a heart is completely disgusted to think this is what is being brought out in our youth because of Trump.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Regardless of what you think of the boy standing and smirking, he just received an impression that will likely stay with him for the rest of his life. I imagine it's going to be the face of this man and the sound of his voice and drum that will follow him into his sleep tonight. And hopefully many more. What becomes of the boy remains to be seen.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)SergeStorms
(19,193 posts)The "Hitler Youth" were often forced to join Hitler's training camp for future Nazis. These "Twitler Youth" are willfully abandoning all decency and claims of "christianity" by confronting these peaceful Omaha Native Americans. Is this what catholicism is teaching the youth of America?
This is particularly unnerving. The youth of the United States of America being schooled in hate, nonacceptance, and disrespect for others by a RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION! It's way past time to start taxing churches in this country. If I were president I'd give all churches one year to straighten up their acts. Either they stop interfering with the affairs of State, or they lose their precious tax exempt status as a church.
pandr32
(11,579 posts)underpants
(182,769 posts)SergeStorms
(19,193 posts)that can explain how I feel about that religious piece of crap. If I was silly enough to use "twitter" I'd tweet him a reply. "Why is it men of "god" feel the need to rape little boys?". Drop the mic and walk away.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)There is no one provoking them. There is no one threatening them. There is no reason for this.
This is Hitler Youth style intimidation. This is the horror of our time.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)Please don't pretend that the absence of that interaction in this video of an event that occurred before this video started proves that event never happened.
(I have seen the video of the event alleged to have triggered this one, and can confirm there was no provocation. BUT this video starts AFTER that interaction.)
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)They are responsible for their actions ...
To taunt an Indian drumming?
Excuse me ... I dont think they are justified in their bad actions.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)You don't even have to go beyond the caption.
My concern was with using fake news tactics to prove the lack of provocation. The poster to whom I was responding asserted that the video posted, which begins AFTER the allegedly provocative incident, proves there was no provocation. If something happens at 10:00 AM, and you have a video that begins at 10:30 AM, the video beginning a half hour after the alleged incident cannot prove anything about whether the incident occurred or not because it does not capture the relevant time frame.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)Without you being ???
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)If that wasn't what you intended, put it down to oxycodone, a spiral fracture in my tibia, and two other fractures in my fibula.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)the inability to express inflection through text can be a problem
Hope you feel better soon
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)The break was Wednesday on a patch of black ice. Surgery thursday, back home yesterday and moving up and down the split level to the bathroom without assistance. Not bad for 62 - since it too my brother 2 weeks to do the same, with a simpler break at 35. But he's a big baby.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)Am so glad you are recovering well 😊
Squinch
(50,949 posts)hate through a microphone. They were exercising their right to free speech, however abhorrent we find that speech.
The 5 guys did not approach the boys. The boys came to them. They did not touch the boys. They did nothing but speak. They did what you and I would fight for their right to do, no matter how much we disagreed with what they were saying.
There was no provocation. The boys could have walked on. The boys could have argued back at the 5 idiots, exercising their own right to free speech. There was nothing in the preceding events that could be legitimately construed as provoking 50 near-men to surround Mr. Phillips, who was unrelated to either group, prevent his escape, scream at him, taunt him, insult him and intimidate him.
If we are going to start characterizing hateful free speech as provocation to assaults like the one perpetrated on Mr. Phillips, we may as well hang up the Constitution and give up.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not everything that you have written here is entirely accurate.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)it that is not there. You have not answered my previous questions to you about what it is you think you see in this video.
So here again is the question I asked you earlier: You seem to think the asinine rants by the 5 idiots who identify themselves as Black Israelites, rants that were fully protected under our Right to Free Speech, drove those 50 near-men to abuse Mr. Phillips. Is that your position?
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)What I'm saying is that if a video starts at 10:30, you can't use that video to prove that nothing happened at 10:15 - which (specific times aside) is what you did.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)The long video has been posted in many places.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)My point was solely that you were insisting a video that did not even capture the critical point in time proved provocation did not occur - which is an impossibility, and a boast worthy of being called fake news - not something we ought to aspire to on DU.
Squinch
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David__77
(23,369 posts)Does that somehow absolve responsibility for own actions? Someone could also not be prepared to have their soup served cold in a restaurant - so what?
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David__77
(23,369 posts)Chant regarding wall.
Hand chopping motions, if those occurred (I didnt notice them).
Wearing pro-Trump hats.
Singing that I think was mockery of the Native Americans singing.
I do think that those things add up to a reasonable case for white chauvinism, not necessarily of every student there- of some.
Each individual is responsible for his or her actions, in my opinion.
I appreciate the focus on specific actions rather than generalizations.
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David__77
(23,369 posts)I see no place for but.
Ive watched a lot of video footage.
Mockery and white nationalist politics.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Yeah, didn't think so.
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)I would of put my body right in between. I have encountered much worse then this band of puppy water squirters...fuck outta here with that bullshit.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Given an okay, they would have killed the Elder without a second thought.
Animal skin drum heads are hardly sharp and in your face although he could have moved his ugly face a few feet.
Your kid is famous, lady! He can live in your cellar forever.
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is something you actually believe or were you using hyperbole?
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,242 posts)with the music turned up, the door barricaded, and just a couple of the MAGA's involved. The gentleman was becoming frightened of the threat surrounding him. These young people were certainly provoking him, and if he would have responded that may have been the end to this elderly gentleman.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)...or adult chaperones.
And FYI the one finger raised you see flashed at 0:31 is a racist meme:
https://emojipedia.org/white-up-pointing-index/
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Some of the onlookers look to maybe be doing that.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Disgusting that a Nazi Hitler Youth MAGAt was wearing a ND cap.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)underpants
(182,769 posts)onenote
(42,694 posts)budkin
(6,699 posts)He was just defending himself!!! Also black muslims. #MAGATeen