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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:24 AM Jan 2019

John Kerry on Trump: This is the 'walk-away presidency'


By Adrienne Vogt, CNN

Updated 3:20 PM ET, Sat January 19, 2019

(CNN)Former Secretary of State John Kerry says President Donald Trump's actions on the international stage do not help the United States and show he is not a negotiator.

"This is the pull-out, walk-away presidency, and it is not enhancing the interest of the United States of America," Kerry told David Axelrod on "The Axe Files," airing on CNN on Saturday at 7 p.m. ET.

"This President is not negotiating; he doesn't negotiate. This is a man who claims to be the world's greatest negotiator. What is he negotiating?" Kerry said, citing Trump's decisions to pull troops from Syria and Afghanistan, pull out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership and withdraw from the Paris climate accord.

"President Trump has isolated America and taken us backwards in terms of institutions that were structured ever since World War II to bring the world together," Kerry said.

Kerry also slammed Trump declining to endorse the US government's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, which Trump did during a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Helsinki summit last year.

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John Kerry on Trump: This is the 'walk-away presidency' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
It is well-known that Trump cannot negotiate and always walks away from business-deals. DetlefK Jan 2019 #1
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #6
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2019 #13
The CNN alert got my hopes up for a few seconds. 47of74 Jan 2019 #2
Trump also cannot fire people face-to-face. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2019 #3
Mattis quit his job and shocked everyone including us on DU FakeNoose Jan 2019 #8
I was heartbroken when Kerry lost the presidency femmedem Jan 2019 #4
Same here karynnj Jan 2019 #12
Same here. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #15
If he were to run he would be in my top tier. femmedem Jan 2019 #17
I would love either one of those combinations, but unfortunately the American public smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #18
I would love those combinations karynnj Jan 2019 #19
Thanks for such an informative and thoughtful post. femmedem Jan 2019 #20
he would not run for president but he should help the next dem president put the state dept JI7 Jan 2019 #21
Either that or be given the role of representing the US on anything environmental karynnj Jan 2019 #22
And, apparently a "walk away" f'er also. Like Kavanought, the 4Fs. erronis Jan 2019 #5
This Lame Fuck has to go. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #7
I hope John Kerry gets outraged more often FakeNoose Jan 2019 #9
Kerry has often spoken out when Trump has done dysfunctional foreign policy things karynnj Jan 2019 #14
the wipe away presidency. the skid mark, shit stain presidency. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #10
Trump is the Pull Out King Generic Brad Jan 2019 #11
Funny, "this is the pull-out, walk-away presidency" is just like how... Tarc Jan 2019 #16
And if his father had pulled out some 73 years ago... 47of74 Jan 2019 #23

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. It is well-known that Trump cannot negotiate and always walks away from business-deals.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:29 AM
Jan 2019

If he has trouble in business-negotiations, he just takes his money and walks away and tries to find another sucker.

That's what he always.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
2. The CNN alert got my hopes up for a few seconds.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jan 2019

When Kerry said the orange fuck knob has a walk away Presidency I was hoping that his Earth shattering announcement was that he was resigning. Walking away from it. No such luck though.

3. Trump also cannot fire people face-to-face.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:47 AM
Jan 2019

His reality show persona was a fiction invented by the producers, who actually chose the contestants to be eliminated.

IRL he has fired every person during his presidency via tweet or intermediary. That's what makes his statement that he fired Sec. of Defense Mattis before he quit a big fat lie. Mattis made sure he was looking Trump in the eye when he quit. Trump initially thought Mattis' resignation letter was complimentary; when someone finally explained it to him, he sent out the tweet claiming he fired Mattis first. He's both a coward and a liar.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
8. Mattis quit his job and shocked everyone including us on DU
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jan 2019

What he said was that he would stay on until March, essentially giving 90 days' notice. Cheeto told him to clear out by the end of December, so in his mind he was "firing" Mattis by shortening the leave-time. No such thing, Cheeto had the rug pulled out from under him. And I do believe your story that Cheeto failed to comprehend the meaning of Mattis' letter. I think he reads on a 3rd or 4th-grade level, and only when he absolutely has to.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
4. I was heartbroken when Kerry lost the presidency
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:08 AM
Jan 2019

and my respect for him has only grown through the years.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
12. Same here
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

From 1971 through the present time, he has been a strong, moral, consistent voice that - even when I disagreed on a vote - I have been impressed with his reasoning and his goals. His book is a very interesting read.

I have thought since 2004 that he was the best of both the "war babies" and the baby boomers. He has a rare combination of vision, integrity and the willingness to really listen to all sides. 2005 would have been a tough time for anyone to become President - and he might not have been re-elected - but he would have left the country far better than it was in the actual 2008.

As it was, neither the Paris Agreement or the Iran deal, where his involvement started as the chair of the foreign relations committee, would likely have happened without him. In 2012, when he and Obama spoke, he had told Obama that he wanted climate change to be a signature issue for him as women's issues were for HRC. The Obama administration was then pessimistic that anything could happen, but Obama gave him permission to try with China. The agreement with China led to agreements with other countries and the Paris Agreement.

Even with Trump, we are better off having had a Secretary of State John Kerry than if anyone else would have been in that position.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. Same here.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jan 2019

I was just devastated. I still think he would make an excellent president. We need a sober adult at the helm right now, not an overgrown frat boy or a deranged shit-gibbon.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
17. If he were to run he would be in my top tier.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jan 2019

He expressed some moderate interest a few months ago but I don't believe he's taken any steps towards a candidacy. I trust him on climate change, on foreign policy, on having the experience and skills to fix so much of what Trump has broken.

Kerry/Harris or Kerry/Klobuchar would be a dream for me. But after having been swift boated, I don't know if enough of the American voters admire him like you and I do.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I would love either one of those combinations, but unfortunately the American public
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jan 2019

seems to want a reality show star or a brash entertainer over someone who can actually govern like an adult. It's pretty sad.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
19. I would love those combinations
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

His answers have been pretty clear that he is not doing the things that would be done already. I would think that his wife's health might be a concern. While he, like Biden, is in his mid 70s, she is 5 years older.

From the comments on CNN and the podcast, he sounds like he will be involved on issues - and on diplomacy and the environment there is really no one who is better. (In addition to the Paris Accord, he started the now annual Our Oceans international conference which has done some important things.)

I saw one late 2004 (before the election) poll that showed that only the far right people who would never have voted for him anyway believed the lies.

However, what they stole from him was that before the liars, the comments of the man he saved in Vietnam and the men actually on his boat were as a good a character reference as could be had. At 25, he had the seriousness, vision, and skill to create a team that led to all his men surviving in what was one of the most dangerous assignments in that war. Not to mention, many of their comments destroyed any smear of him as aloof and too privileged - starting with Alston, a black sailor who became a minister saying in one ad, that Kerry knowing he was traumatized by a terrible attack he was injured in (before Kerry took over the boat) would make sure to come over to him after each mission to ask him how he was doing -- something he said no other officer had ever done.

I think he will not win the nomination because he doesn't run or if he is seen as too old or that he is showing enough interest in winning the nomination.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
20. Thanks for such an informative and thoughtful post.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jan 2019

I had forgotten about the Our Oceans conference, and also that Teresa is that much older.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
21. he would not run for president but he should help the next dem president put the state dept
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

back together again.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
22. Either that or be given the role of representing the US on anything environmental
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jan 2019

ie both climate change and the our oceans initiative that he started.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
9. I hope John Kerry gets outraged more often
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jan 2019

We need his voice on national television, talking about the stupid short-sighted things Trump is doing with respect to our Allies and our enemies. Kerry is no longer employed by the US government and he can be honest and forthright about what Trump is doing. Current State Dept. employees need to be careful in their criticism, but Kerry can say what he really thinks.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
14. Kerry has often spoken out when Trump has done dysfunctional foreign policy things
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jan 2019

He was the strongest voice explaining why Trump was wrong with what he claimed when he pulled out of both Paris and the Iran deal. He also has been one of the few prominent voices who pointed out that on both - other countries did NOT follow him. (IMO, this is proving - rather than saying - that with Trump as President, the US is not leading. You are not a leader if no one follows.)

He has spoken out to the media - where he can still get coverage when he wants it due to his stature - when he was the "right" Obama administration figure to speak out. In addition, he has been in various places doing public interviews for his book tour. Almost all turn to the current situation. There he is a consistent voice for activism. He has spoken of the current danger to our democracy and has called on Republican Senators to put country before party. He also has spoken of protecting the vote (which Obama and Holder have taken the lead on) and emphasizing the need to get people out to vote. Many were in the lead up to 2018.

In addition, he has been very active promoting action against climate change in the US and internationally. It is hard to find anyone with his mainstream standing more willing to speak out when needed for over 40 years.

I watched the CNN show -

, but not the podcast (which I will listen to - https://player.fm/series/the-axe-files-with-david-axelrod-2046673/ep-301-john-kerry-tv

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. Funny, "this is the pull-out, walk-away presidency" is just like how...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jan 2019

...Stormy described sex with him.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
23. And if his father had pulled out some 73 years ago...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jan 2019

....he would have saved the world quite a bit of grief.

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