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Siwsan

(26,248 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:51 AM Jan 2019

Who thinks Aboriginals were here before Native Americans? Covington Catholic boys, of course!!

Another video has been released from the DC harassment. It's intellectually damning. I'm pretty gobsmacked by this one. Hope this guy isn't an example of their 'best and brightest'. And, the article has some other pretty frustrating to read reactions from school officials. The world may want these kids held to account for their outrageous behavior, but I'm not sure the school system is going to do much.

'Y’all stole it from the Aboriginals... land gets stolen, it’s the way of the world'

Video has surfaced of a 16-year-old boy telling a group of Native American men at the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington D.C. they stole land from 'the Aboriginals'.

After a group of Native American men walk by the Lincoln Memorial, a voice can be heard saying, 'Just because you stole the land, don't make it yours.'

The student, who is wearing an Owensboro Catholic High School hoodie, and 'Trump' hat, can be heard replying, '…and y'all stole it from the Aboriginals…it's been stolen throughout all of history…land gets stolen…it's how it works…it's the way of the world.'

President of Owensboro Catholic Schools Tom Lilly defended the student saying he'd made a mistake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6611747/Another-video-emerges-student-mocking-Native-Americans-rally-school-defends-student.html

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Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. "it's the way of the world." - Young MAGA republican
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jan 2019

There's your republican "family values" right there. Sleazy excuses for doing wrong.

Respect for other is correct - not politically correct or anything else - just plain correct. republicans and their spawn have pissed all over that basic life concept, and it shows.

MaryMagdaline

(6,850 posts)
2. The father gets that his son lacks empathy and doesn't understand
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jan 2019

The pain of loss. How does the kid not have even an inkling? Trump appeals to kids who don’t want to feel empathy. It’s too much trouble and brings pain to your own life.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
3. Let the little boys come up here for a bit. Our aboriginals exist. They're called
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019

Iñupiat, Yupik, Aleut, Eyak, Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, and you'd BETTER fucking respect them.

yardwork

(61,537 posts)
4. These little snowflakes wouldn't last a minute in any kind of stressful situation.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jan 2019

They are the definition of clueless hateful privileged white kids. Not a good look.

Beatlelvr

(618 posts)
5. Well, the parent has a point
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:19 PM
Jan 2019

I'm not saying condone it, but these are teenage boys for fuck sake...they have sawdust for brains. Always have, always will. Clueless to the max. And don't forget mob mentality that seems to rule in situations like this. Any boy who steps in to quiet the group would be shouted down and later shunned or teased on social media.

Maybe your young son is a nice guy, but having lived for 67 years in this world, I'm observed this is the norm not the exception.

Igel

(35,270 posts)
6. They're actually among the last people to migrate here in prehistory.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

It's why they're around the northern rim. They only even reached parts of Greenland after the Vikings left, they're that recent. (Yes, it means the Danes were the first settlers and are therefore as "indigenous" to Greenland as you can get.)

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
7. There is a school of thought in white supremacist circles that the Clovis people
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jan 2019

The people whose artifacts they have found from tens of thousands of years ago, were Europeans. So they believe that gives Europeans more of a claim. It is all bs but that is what I think he means. And there is no difference between aboriginal americans and native American. Just different ways of saying the same thing.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
8. Native Americans (First Nations) ARE aboriginal.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:53 PM
Jan 2019
ab·o·rig·i·nal
/ˌabəˈrijənl/
adjective
adjective: aboriginal

1. inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of colonists; indigenous.

What the fuck are they teaching these kids?

Igel

(35,270 posts)
9. They missed the latest analyses.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jan 2019

What they're saying is that folk like Kennewick Man were here before the ancestors of the Native Americans. Based mostly on physical anthropological information, it was determined that he wasn't ancestral to Native Americans.

Therefore, the reasoning went, later immigrants genocided his kind, either through assimilation or aggression.

It wasn't until a few years ago that the DNA data was available and even then direct ancestry is difficult to establish. Kennewick Man's DNA is closest to Native American DNA. In particular, closest to a tribe not far from where he was found. That's where DNA leaves us.

The standard interpretation now is that he's ancestral. That's mostly because nobody wants to be accused of disbelieving the oppressed and challenging that conclusion. However, it's difficult enough to detect the Celtic substratum in France or Britain or the Slavic substratum in eastern Germany given rather more remains than we have of Paleoamericans from that time (which would be "1" ... not much statistics there). There certainly was invasion and assimilation/aggression in the European cases, but the peoples were already similar genetically and the substratum fully assimilated. Does that mean that a German has rights to ancient Slavic remains in the area because the DNA linkage means they have the same cultural beliefs? That's way beyond sketchy--and that's only 1500 years difference--but it's the state of the politics.

The other problem is that the state of DNA research in native tribes is crappy. It's always getting better--it's hard for it to get worse--but there's poor coverage and even with that coverage there's often poor documentation.

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