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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat smug Kentucky teen harassing Nathan Phillips will become an iconic photograph of the Trump
era, as this one was of the Civil Rights era, and this boy might ultimately end up as shamed for the rest of his life as Hazel Bryan (the white girl) was, even as she regretted how she acted that day:
RainCaster
(10,842 posts)Let them all embrace him.
CountAllVotes
(20,867 posts)and every low-life thug that supports the Dicktator tRump! Why narrow it down and blame it all on one stupid idiot wearing a MAGAt hat? There are millions of them and no, they are not all Catholics! It is a sickness called racism that permeates AmeriKKKa today!
SunDrop23
(2,109 posts)He doesn't represent Catholics.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)texasleo
(11,298 posts)RainCaster
(10,842 posts)Botany
(70,449 posts)30 years ago she saw that image and felt shamed by her actions and reached out to the African
American woman who accepted her apology and they are now good friends.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)effort petered out and became resentment.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts). . . Two years after theyd first met, the pair even appeared on Oprah. Winfrey hadnt bothered hiding her incredulity, even disdain, that day: Of all people, these two were now friends? But as rude as both felt her to have been, shed been on to something. The improbable relationship had already begun to unravel.
A student of, and stickler for, history, Elizabeth looked forand, she thought, spottedholes in Hazels story. How, for instance, could Hazel have undertaken something so cruel so casually, then remembered so little about it afterward? And why, after all these years, did she absolve her parents from any blame? At their joint appearances, Elizabeth could treat Hazel impatiently, peremptorily. Meantime, others in the Little Rock Nine either shunned Hazel or complained of her presence at various commemorations.
But resentment came as well from whites, particularly whites whod attended Central, particularly those from better families, whod thought that, even by always looking the other way, theyd done absolutely nothing wrong during those dark days and, truth be told, considered Hazel and her ilk white trash. Forty years earlier shed given them all a black eye; now, she was back, more conspicuous, and embarrassing, than ever. At a reunion she foolishly, or naively, attended, she felt their cold shoulder, and could hear their snickers. None of them had ever apologized for anything theyd done or not done, and, as far as Hazel could tell, theyd been none the worse for their silence.
Ultimately, it grew too much for Hazel. She cut off ties with Elizabethfor her, Sept. 11, 2011, marked another anniversary: 10 years had passed since theyd last spokenand stopped making public appearances with her. Her interviews with megranted only with great reluctancewill, she says, be her last. When I asked the two women to pose together one last time (Elizabeth turned 70 last Tuesday; Hazel will in January) Elizabeth agreed; Hazel would not. Hazel was poised to vote for Obama in 2008; after all, even her own mother did. But so deep was her hurt that she found some excuse not to.
So the famous photograph of 1957 takes on additional meaning: the continuing chasm between the races and the great difficulty, even among people of good will, to pull off real racial reconciliation. But shuttling back and forth between them, I could see that for all their harsh wordsover the past decade, theyve only dug in their heelsthey still missed one another. Each, I noticed, teared up at references to the other. Perhaps, when no one is lookingor taking any picturestheyll yet come together again. And if they can, maybe, so too, can we.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)erronis
(15,185 posts)So says the Old Wive's Tales, or Bro Grimms, or Aesop.
But nice sound/video bites.
MaryMagdaline
(6,851 posts)If she can forgive her, fine. She doesnt owe her lifetime friendship.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)so there may not be a teaching moment
tblue37
(65,227 posts)in her delicate son's face!
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)A smug 18 year old? Redhat MF with a gang of thugs behind him.
Funny how fast the reich wing GOP/Fox turn with hate and lies against veterans and and senior citizens that aren't lily white.
The silence from VFW and other Vet groups about this assault against one of our own is telling!
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)American history is full of stories of heroic POC veterans returning from war only to be sidelined and worse. This cycle of racism will not die out until the last parent dies off. These kids learn it from home, and sometimes don't even realize it. From hearing fathers say, "Ill kill my daughter if she ever married a black guy or Mexican. Even if the father was joking, this is still institutionalized racism. Treating another human differently only because the color of his skin.
pazzyanne
(6,544 posts)that did not allow him to move out of the way of the man trying to leave his ceremonial blessing area. Bone spurs maybe?
erronis
(15,185 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)He'll have to do one hell of a turnaround to overcome it.
Harker
(13,988 posts)some day.
erronis
(15,185 posts)something. Not sure what, but maybe a better person.
Citizen recordings are having a huge impact on policing, unfortunately not enough.
State recordings are sometimes very useful for public safety, but are also used for crowd and individual control.
Harker
(13,988 posts)is undertaken expressly because it's being recorded. An astonishing number of people seem to think they've hit the big time when they appear in a video that's gone "viral."
"Joe the plumber" comes quickly to mind.
erronis
(15,185 posts)Harker
(13,988 posts)My high school had one computer in it, and maybe a dozen kids who knew how to use it.
The cultural differences between my wife's eighteen year old and us are profound. Seems he's either sleeping, eating, or fiddling with his phone. Hard to engage
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griloco
(832 posts)Until the mother and kid are known I'm reluctant to quote the email.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)Let his image stand as sick, living proof of the malignant depths to which trump and his knuckle-dragging supporters have taken this country. To hell with him and all the rest of them---we're the ones who are going to have to repair all the damage they've done.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)and his companions with Mr. Phillips should be published in black and white for effect.
That would remove any impact of right-winger's love for red hats and like that old civil rights photo, show the hate in better contrast.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)My viewpoints on human nature have taken a real beating in the last couple of years. I don't want to have anything to do with any trump supporters, ever again.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)in my 71 years. Every single time I get my hopes up about humanity's future, more knuckle-draggers with wads of cash appear out of their caves and deflate my hopes.
I feel that fundamentally, economic inequality is our biggest problem world-wide and it will dominate us at least until climate change takes charge of everything. Far too much power is held in the hands of a tiny group of people.
Because I fight depression and BP issues, like you I avoid confrontation with any right-wingers. I am grateful we have a few things like DU, music, art, animals and children to provide relief from all the adult human crazy.
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catbyte
(34,341 posts)The picture makes me sick to my stomach. And now yet another veteran and downright decent human being who's spent his life helping our community is being excoriated and made to be the bad guy because of lying, dishonest bigots and the bots who echo them.
We are fucked.
Harker
(13,988 posts)Stargleamer
(1,987 posts)Other iconic images of the Trump era:
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