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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:46 PM Jan 2019

Why is this country so afraid of impeachment?

Our forefathers saw fit to include it and the 25th Amendment in the constitution in case of impairment or if a president was incompetent or broke the law. With a corrupt president, we had to have an option to remove him or her in full sight of the American people and that the republic would survive it. This was to insure the stability of our institutions and that a peaceful succession would occur.

It boggles the mind that all of a sudden some are so afraid of it or that it somehow is construed as a coup.

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Why is this country so afraid of impeachment? (Original Post) cynatnite Jan 2019 OP
Not impeaching scares me more. Laurian Jan 2019 #1
The Clinton impeachment is still fresh in people's minds... Dennis Donovan Jan 2019 #2
Don't want this to be a partisan, Democratic party impeachment. empedocles Jan 2019 #8
I'm sorry to say that rewarding bad behavior has now become part of american culture PSPS Jan 2019 #3
I wonder that too .... CatMor Jan 2019 #4
That is one thing I can't understand. Why are people so afraid of this insane, incompetent, stupid, smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #10
Exactly .... the sooner he goes the better our country. CatMor Jan 2019 #13
Impeachment means very little if the Senate doesn't act... themaguffin Jan 2019 #5
The deeper the evidence, the broader the base of support, - the more likely traitotrump and his empedocles Jan 2019 #6
Agreed. I wish we were more like the British California_Republic Jan 2019 #7
The US process makes it possible that crimes will be punished, and reforms instiututed. empedocles Jan 2019 #9
Emmm....no you don't ! They're even more screwed up than the US !!! At least the US OnDoutside Jan 2019 #12
It's like Reelection California_Republic Jan 2019 #14
If by some miracle the UK stays in, they're going to be tearing each other apart for years OnDoutside Jan 2019 #17
My comments were In reference to California_Republic Jan 2019 #19
I agree w/ you. The impeachment language was placed into our constitution and ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #11
The country isn't afraid of impeachment, there just aren't enough numbers in the Senate OnDoutside Jan 2019 #15
I understand the numbers aren't there... cynatnite Jan 2019 #16
Well after the way republicans used it to go after Bill Clinton, is it any surprise ? It has OnDoutside Jan 2019 #18
Maybe because.... moondust Jan 2019 #20
Are they afraid? GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #21

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
1. Not impeaching scares me more.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

The damage that can be done during 2 more years of this is what’s really scary.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. The Clinton impeachment is still fresh in people's minds...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jan 2019

...and, because it proved to be a TRUE political witch hunt, even the mention of the "i" word still leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
4. I wonder that too ....
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jan 2019

I also wonder why so many are afraid of trump. He is just a ignorant, racist, bully blowhard. No need to be afraid of him just give him what he deserves.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. That is one thing I can't understand. Why are people so afraid of this insane, incompetent, stupid,
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jan 2019

unlikable, old gasbag. He's a paper tiger. And his base is the same. All bluster, no substance. Stop rewarding bad behavior and take him down. He is doing insurmountable damage to the office of the presidency and to our national institutions. He needs to go sooner rather than later. I don't think we can wait another two years.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. The deeper the evidence, the broader the base of support, - the more likely traitotrump and his
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

cohorts will effectively be removed from office - and the better reforms of this mess will be.

[As the Congress gets their investigations and subpoenas going, things will move faster].

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
7. Agreed. I wish we were more like the British
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jan 2019

If it isn’t working out, the president goes. We are just letting him or her go, not sending them to jail. That another process. I’m referring to all past, current, and future presidents. If they meet the constitutional requirements then toss them. Better than the country suffering the full 4 years.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
12. Emmm....no you don't ! They're even more screwed up than the US !!! At least the US
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jan 2019

has fantastic Democratic politicians, there's not one of note in the UK.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
17. If by some miracle the UK stays in, they're going to be tearing each other apart for years
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jan 2019

to come, versus a Democratic Party in the US, that has its shit together, and hopefully will go onto dominate the next decade or more.

The UK is horribly divided, and there are no politicians of stature that people can coalesce around. Plus they have an awfully out of date electoral system.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
11. I agree w/ you. The impeachment language was placed into our constitution and ...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jan 2019

amendment for a reason. We have clear reasons to do so now, and I suspect, when all of the multiple investigations conclude, when Mueller's special counsel efforts conclude and report(s) issued, more reasons will exist to impeach.

Too much 'analysis' of the impeachment process is seemingly distracting efforts from beginning the whole process, which I guess in one way is good, that such a remedy is only rarely used, and only used in dire situations.

I can't think of another more corrupt administration in my lifetime other than rump and his administration, in which the word 'impeachment' means a great deal. I know Nixon came close, but didn't pass muster and he resigned when threatened. Especially when rump suggested that a former political opponent be prosecuted (HRC). This blew my mind, and sealed the deal for impeachment, for me. I'm sure that they are other more scary events too, that we don't know of yet.

Nice post, cynatnite.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
15. The country isn't afraid of impeachment, there just aren't enough numbers in the Senate
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

to impeach. It's that simple. What gets me is that we have so many threads like this, asking the same question.

Not getting at you, but it's frustrating that so many people don't get this simple fact.

What's more, unless the evidence is laid out there to show even the thickest of Trumper, all you are doing is energizing them, and you still won't get the impeachment you want.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
16. I understand the numbers aren't there...
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jan 2019

But when you hear the talking heads, read the poll numbers there is a portion of this country that find impeachment to be a dirty word of sorts, as if it's an extreme that no one should undertake.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
18. Well after the way republicans used it to go after Bill Clinton, is it any surprise ? It has
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

its place and function but if you push something where you don't have the numbers, it can rebound. Impeachment should only be considered if republicans come on their knees to Democrats begging to impeach him, to put them out of their misery.

Impeachment before 2020 changes the narrative, which would put daylight between their crimes and a new election cycle.

moondust

(19,961 posts)
20. Maybe because....
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jan 2019

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impeachment is not what it used to be?

Fox News launched on October 7, 1996. Bill Clinton was "impeached" on December 19, 1998--before Fox had had much time to refine its propaganda model and grow its audience.

That's all changed. I don't know if Fox News and Presidents Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter would ever accept impeachment of their stooge. Instead they might foment a civil war/armed rebellion until a lot of people get hurt.

It's potentially a more dangerous proposition now than it used to be.

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