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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 02:17 PM Jan 2019

Seth Abramson on conspiracy against George Soros

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1087034476553752576.html?refreshed=yes

When I started reading this and saw that two Jews were behind this, based on my research for PROOF OF CONSPIRACY I immediately thought to myself, "It'll be Birnbaum and Finkelstein."

And it was.

I'll tell you now that these two guys were part of pre-election collusion. Bigtime.




2/ I know I don't have to tell 99% of you this, but for the other 1% I'll tell you, as a Jew, that not only is the word "Jew" not offensive, but it's a relevant noun here because there are very few Jews who'd make it their life's work to destroy the life of a Holocaust survivor.

3/ Anyone doing a deep dive on the Trump-Israeli connection will shortly come across a small cadre of Jews so committed to Trump being president that they were willing to create a danger of assassination for a Holocaust survivor. Birnbaum/Finkelstein are in that very small group.

4/ Upshot: be careful about accusing me of speaking incautiously about Israel or Jews, not primarily because I am also a Jew but because I have done enough research to know the *very* small, discrete number of Israelis and non-Israeli Jews who are villains in the collusion story.

5/ And as Buzzfeed News *correctly* notes, Birnbaum and Finkelstein's religious background is *relevant* to their mens rea because they explicitly weighed being anti-Semitic themselves (re: Soros) against Trump's purported long-term value to their narrow understanding of Judaism.

6/ Saying there was an Israeli and non-Israeli pre-election collusion criminal conspiracy involving a small and discrete number of Israeli and non-Israeli Jews who were motivated by their twisted sense of themselves as Jews is a sad (legal) fact having nothing to do with Judaism.

7/ If you're wondering why I'd bother to do a thread on this uncomfortable subject: America is going to have to learn *very soon* how to have a conversation about collusive crimes committed by government-linked Israelis that do not involve immediate accusations of anti-Semitism.
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muriel_volestrangler

(101,160 posts)
1. The article is, however, about their work demonising Soros on behalf of Orban in Hungary
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jan 2019

not for Trump. Soros has been a major part of Orban's election strategy, as the article explains, as as you can see from him putting up anti-Soros posters. There was nothing like that in the USA. The ravings of the far right are just a by-product of the effort in Hungary.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
3. The article goes on to explain how the initial Hungarian campaign blossomed globally
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jan 2019

And Soros has become a global boogeyman.

It's a riveting article. Very well done

chowder66

(9,011 posts)
5. This article makes me want to punch the world for buying into these assholes tactics.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jan 2019

Hate and aggression is way more attractive to a lot of the world than love and peace.
We need to demolish these tactics or flip them hard.

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