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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Abramson on conspiracy against George Soros
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1087034476553752576.html?refreshed=yesWhen I started reading this and saw that two Jews were behind this, based on my research for PROOF OF CONSPIRACY I immediately thought to myself, "It'll be Birnbaum and Finkelstein."
And it was.
I'll tell you now that these two guys were part of pre-election collusion. Bigtime.
2/ I know I don't have to tell 99% of you this, but for the other 1% I'll tell you, as a Jew, that not only is the word "Jew" not offensive, but it's a relevant noun here because there are very few Jews who'd make it their life's work to destroy the life of a Holocaust survivor.
3/ Anyone doing a deep dive on the Trump-Israeli connection will shortly come across a small cadre of Jews so committed to Trump being president that they were willing to create a danger of assassination for a Holocaust survivor. Birnbaum/Finkelstein are in that very small group.
4/ Upshot: be careful about accusing me of speaking incautiously about Israel or Jews, not primarily because I am also a Jew but because I have done enough research to know the *very* small, discrete number of Israelis and non-Israeli Jews who are villains in the collusion story.
5/ And as Buzzfeed News *correctly* notes, Birnbaum and Finkelstein's religious background is *relevant* to their mens rea because they explicitly weighed being anti-Semitic themselves (re: Soros) against Trump's purported long-term value to their narrow understanding of Judaism.
6/ Saying there was an Israeli and non-Israeli pre-election collusion criminal conspiracy involving a small and discrete number of Israeli and non-Israeli Jews who were motivated by their twisted sense of themselves as Jews is a sad (legal) fact having nothing to do with Judaism.
7/ If you're wondering why I'd bother to do a thread on this uncomfortable subject: America is going to have to learn *very soon* how to have a conversation about collusive crimes committed by government-linked Israelis that do not involve immediate accusations of anti-Semitism.
And it was.
I'll tell you now that these two guys were part of pre-election collusion. Bigtime.
Link to tweet
2/ I know I don't have to tell 99% of you this, but for the other 1% I'll tell you, as a Jew, that not only is the word "Jew" not offensive, but it's a relevant noun here because there are very few Jews who'd make it their life's work to destroy the life of a Holocaust survivor.
3/ Anyone doing a deep dive on the Trump-Israeli connection will shortly come across a small cadre of Jews so committed to Trump being president that they were willing to create a danger of assassination for a Holocaust survivor. Birnbaum/Finkelstein are in that very small group.
4/ Upshot: be careful about accusing me of speaking incautiously about Israel or Jews, not primarily because I am also a Jew but because I have done enough research to know the *very* small, discrete number of Israelis and non-Israeli Jews who are villains in the collusion story.
5/ And as Buzzfeed News *correctly* notes, Birnbaum and Finkelstein's religious background is *relevant* to their mens rea because they explicitly weighed being anti-Semitic themselves (re: Soros) against Trump's purported long-term value to their narrow understanding of Judaism.
6/ Saying there was an Israeli and non-Israeli pre-election collusion criminal conspiracy involving a small and discrete number of Israeli and non-Israeli Jews who were motivated by their twisted sense of themselves as Jews is a sad (legal) fact having nothing to do with Judaism.
7/ If you're wondering why I'd bother to do a thread on this uncomfortable subject: America is going to have to learn *very soon* how to have a conversation about collusive crimes committed by government-linked Israelis that do not involve immediate accusations of anti-Semitism.
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Seth Abramson on conspiracy against George Soros (Original Post)
Roland99
Jan 2019
OP
The article is, however, about their work demonising Soros on behalf of Orban in Hungary
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2019
#1
The article goes on to explain how the initial Hungarian campaign blossomed globally
Arazi
Jan 2019
#3
This article makes me want to punch the world for buying into these assholes tactics.
chowder66
Jan 2019
#5
muriel_volestrangler
(101,160 posts)1. The article is, however, about their work demonising Soros on behalf of Orban in Hungary
not for Trump. Soros has been a major part of Orban's election strategy, as the article explains, as as you can see from him putting up anti-Soros posters. There was nothing like that in the USA. The ravings of the far right are just a by-product of the effort in Hungary.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)3. The article goes on to explain how the initial Hungarian campaign blossomed globally
And Soros has become a global boogeyman.
It's a riveting article. Very well done
muriel_volestrangler
(101,160 posts)4. As I said, a by-product (nt)
Stargleamer
(1,979 posts)2. They are (Birnbaum) or were (Finkelstein) both plutocratic fucking assholes
traitors to Jews everywhere
chowder66
(9,011 posts)5. This article makes me want to punch the world for buying into these assholes tactics.
Hate and aggression is way more attractive to a lot of the world than love and peace.
We need to demolish these tactics or flip them hard.