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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:33 PM Jan 2019

They didn't get *every* detail right in their reporting - but they got enough right

Bob Geiger @GeigerNews
This seems like the perfect time to show this picture of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein watching the president who called *their* reporting fake news resigning from office.

They didn’t get *every* detail right in their reporting – but they got enough right, didn’t they?







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DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
2. Kurt Eichenwald's (WP) tweet threads can help here.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jan 2019
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086625184730308608.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086617706458157056.html

Interesting observation by Eichenwald
(snip)
I was deeply skeptical of the Buzzfeed story for a variety of reasons. But for those who want to believe it because you want evidence that Trump committed a crime - you don't need it. The story lured him out and - once again - he PUBLICLY committed a more serious crime...
...federal law on suborning perjury has a five year sentence. Now consider the relative significance of witness intimidation under federal law: 20 year sentence. And Trump has been publicly intimidating witnesses for months.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I could go on, but you get the idea. Make of it what you will.



P.S. Boldface emphasis is mine.

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
9. Great point! He has done far worse, right in front of our eyes!
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jan 2019

We've just become so used to him flagrantly committing crimes (or certainly appearing to) in plain sight over the past two years, with absolutely no consequence, that we've taken on a kind of 'learned helplessness' that once plagued neglected babies in orphanages.

But Mueller has seen it all and duly noted, AND Nancy is in power now. Somehow he is going to pay for these public threats and lures to witnesses, which are far more serious than the Cohen perjury charge. And the time of reckoning is drawing near.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
8. Particularly control freaks
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:44 PM
Jan 2019

like the one in the white house. They routinely fail at plausible deniability.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
5. I watched All the President's Men again
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:06 PM
Jan 2019

When Woodward and Bernstein got it wrong about John Dean's testimony about Haldeman, everybody freaked out, especially Bradlee. It was a mistake, and a bad one, but the body of their work prevailed.

I'm not even sure the BuzzFeed article was a total misfire. Mueller could have easily categorically denied the whole thing if that's what he meant; he didn't. The statement was closely parsed. But time will tell.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
6. Bernstein talked about that
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jan 2019

On“Reliable Sources,” today. Their story turned out to be right, but he also said we need to wait on the Mueller report, not wise to jump the gun.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
7. it's true. the only thing the reporters did wrong was which
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:42 PM
Jan 2019

Investigation was attributed. Mueller had to nix that

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
10. No, they didn't get it right.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:53 PM
Jan 2019

Anything. MSM tried mightily to confirm the BF report and couldn't. The two reporters contradicted themselves. The report was so wrong that Mueller felt the need to say so when he doesn't say anything normally.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Good comparison. My thought is that BuzzFeed got the story right for about 90%+ of it....
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

Mueller's office merely said that the "characterization of documents and testimony" was "not accurate". The CHARACTERIZATION, not the documents and testimony itself.

Here's the exact statement:

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate.

onenote

(42,685 posts)
15. All BuzzFeed did was "characterize" the documents.They didn't produce or quote them.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:21 AM
Jan 2019

The BuzzFeed story only is plausible if someone within Mueller's team spoke to them. And that, to say the least, is highly implausible.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
12. I remember the initial reaction
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jan 2019

to the Steele Dossier and it wasn't just the right that jumped all over it. Pretty much everyone in the media mocked it and criticized BuzzFeed for publishing it before it could be verified. Very few people took it seriously at the time. It sounded so far-fetched and BuzzFeed wasn't considered a serious news source.

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