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edhopper

(33,491 posts)
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:30 PM Jan 2019

The NFL just had a game that was a replay of the 2016 election

one team, the Saints, clearly won, but the Refs gave it to the other team, the Rams.

It was about not calling an obvious pass interference penalty.
Sort of like ignoring voter suppression and Russian interference.

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The NFL just had a game that was a replay of the 2016 election (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2019 OP
A terrible non call mcar Jan 2019 #1
Thank you!!!!! Geaux Saints!!!!! Kajun Gal Jan 2019 #2
Saints got robbed.......nt Heartstrings Jan 2019 #3
Of course the Rams got the csll PCIntern Jan 2019 #4
Let's not pretend the Rams aren't good this season. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #19
The Rams were legit edhopper Jan 2019 #22
Great team but that call was outrageous PCIntern Jan 2019 #24
I'm still pissed. All-time level of officiating incompetence Roland99 Jan 2019 #5
Hey I'm an Angels fan. If you want to see officiating incompetence, look up 2005 ALDS. Initech Jan 2019 #25
I expect something similar to happen KatyMan Jan 2019 #6
Typical for Pats.....nt Tree-Hugger Jan 2019 #8
I will be sooooo pissed demtenjeep Jan 2019 #9
The Patriots have been given the whole season so far. Initech Jan 2019 #15
the patriots lost 5 games and won their division Takket Jan 2019 #20
Remember the Jets game and the stolen TD.... oldsoftie Jan 2019 #68
And you are right; phantom "roughing the baby/passer" call late in the game gives them first down. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #69
You must not touch Tommy. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #79
Those are the EXACT words a friend of mine used!! HA! oldsoftie Jan 2019 #84
Did the Russians decide the outcome? RainCaster Jan 2019 #7
No, but SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #10
no conspiracy edhopper Jan 2019 #12
That was awful. cwydro Jan 2019 #11
Happens all the time in the NBA Bob Loblaw Jan 2019 #13
Clearly the LA market is larger. But fan base? I don't know. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #17
God that was awful. nolabear Jan 2019 #14
Saints won at least 1 game this season where DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #16
This difference is that it wasn't a Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #30
Every game matters DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #59
I've always believed ref or umpire calls works both ways Hawaii Hiker Jan 2019 #33
Rarely do they decide edhopper Jan 2019 #45
Those games weren't deal breakers towards overall season uponit7771 Jan 2019 #43
Yes they were DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #63
Horrible call. No guarantee the Saints would have won. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #18
If the penalty is called edhopper Jan 2019 #23
If they made the field goal. Don't assume they would have. stopbush Jan 2019 #41
From the 5? edhopper Jan 2019 #46
Could have been blocked, could have been a bad snap. Plenty of unknowns. stopbush Jan 2019 #51
96% chance that make that field goal. But nice try. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #55
Doesn't matter. Game is over, Saints lost stopbush Jan 2019 #57
I agree they lost, because of the refs. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #61
Did the Saints come up short in OT because of the refs? stopbush Jan 2019 #64
I'll agree with that percentage. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #71
You're kidding, right? The Rams had only one time out left. blitzen Jan 2019 #31
Very, very likely, yes. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #70
Fresh set of downs and the ability to run clock down to nothing Roland99 Jan 2019 #36
Unless they miss the FG. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #72
Yes, but odds are low of that Roland99 Jan 2019 #78
ABSOLUTELY! Refs sucked. trof Jan 2019 #21
They missed some calls which would have helped the Rams, too. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #73
with the exception of it not mattering one iota who won the football aikoaiko Jan 2019 #26
Thank you for your input edhopper Jan 2019 #32
Sure, but whether I enjoy or not enjoy my completely worthless pasttimes don't matter either. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #37
The election was terrible edhopper Jan 2019 #38
I certainly do...I just don't share them here... brooklynite Jan 2019 #42
That was just plain awful. blur256 Jan 2019 #27
"Thanks for the assist, bud!" True Dough Jan 2019 #28
It was certainly criminal Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #29
The helmet to helmet hit GP6971 Jan 2019 #34
Terrible non-call. Almost as bad as the blatant face mask John Fante Jan 2019 #35
That seems to be the Ram's fans edhopper Jan 2019 #39
No, that seems like an obvious penalty that wasn't called. John Fante Jan 2019 #53
Nope. Bad call, yes, but to assume the Saints would have won is presumptuous. stopbush Jan 2019 #40
The odds were probably edhopper Jan 2019 #48
Odds are just that. Not a reality. stopbush Jan 2019 #50
Reality was edhopper Jan 2019 #52
So what? Reality is the refs could call holding on 95% of the plays in a given game. stopbush Jan 2019 #60
But Sean Peyton and Greg Williams inchhigh Jan 2019 #44
That sentiment warms my heart. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #74
Yeah inchhigh Jan 2019 #83
Exactly. NFL is all about the MONEY. They want the big name cities --LA and NE --in the Superbowl iluvtennis Jan 2019 #47
The NFL couldn't care less about big markets. John Fante Jan 2019 #54
We'll have to agree to disagree :-) iluvtennis Jan 2019 #66
When your premise is wrong, no, no one has to agree to that Tarc Jan 2019 #76
Why couldn't the Saints protest the call? Polybius Jan 2019 #49
Not for penalty's. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #56
No Tarc Jan 2019 #77
If the penalty was called, they probably would have only had a field goal.... George II Jan 2019 #58
They could have run the clock down moondust Jan 2019 #62
If the penalty was called, it would be first and goal Polybius Jan 2019 #65
If the penalty was called edhopper Jan 2019 #75
Everybody gets a bad call at a bad time. Human error. Saints should've played better. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #67
So in other words the NFL sucks... mikeysnot Jan 2019 #80
I don't think I can edhopper Jan 2019 #81
last one I watched was 2005 mikeysnot Jan 2019 #82
Kansas City got fuckin' cheated, too Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #85
You mean edhopper Jan 2019 #86
There were multiple shady calls in that 4th quarter Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #87
From what I am hearing edhopper Jan 2019 #88
I sure as hell won't be watching Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #89
Me neither edhopper Jan 2019 #90

PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
4. Of course the Rams got the csll
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jan 2019

They need to build up the fan base there. Nothing better than a SB appearance. Take it frombthis Eagles Fan.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
25. Hey I'm an Angels fan. If you want to see officiating incompetence, look up 2005 ALDS.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jan 2019

Still ranks as one of the worst officiating calls of all time.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
15. The Patriots have been given the whole season so far.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:14 PM
Jan 2019

Lose 7 games and they're still fucking Super Bowl contenders? GTFO! If they win it will definitely because the refs gave it to them.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
69. And you are right; phantom "roughing the baby/passer" call late in the game gives them first down.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:51 AM
Jan 2019

NUMEROUS calls like that for them throughout the year

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
10. No, but
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jan 2019

There are a couple of posters here who really believe in conspiracy theory.
As near as I can tell, the networks or the NFL or the Illuminati decreed that the Saints throw an interception so they would lose the game.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
13. Happens all the time in the NBA
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

Didn't anticipate it in the NFL, but there it was with the no-call. LA is a much bigger market than NO.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. Clearly the LA market is larger. But fan base? I don't know.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:18 PM
Jan 2019

The entire state of Louisiana plus much of Mississippi and the entire Gulf coast to mobile are saints fans.

With 3 other teams in California and lots of other sports teams it could be close.

LA sure can’t seem to keep a team.

Shitty ending.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
16. Saints won at least 1 game this season where
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jan 2019

the "no calls" were instrumental in their win. Works both ways.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
59. Every game matters
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:19 AM
Jan 2019

NO and LA tied at 13-3, turn that NO win into a loss and they don't get home field advantage for the entire playoffs.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
33. I've always believed ref or umpire calls works both ways
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:08 PM
Jan 2019

every team in every professional sport has examples of times they got a break from a bad or no-call and times they got screwed...

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
63. Yes they were
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:24 AM
Jan 2019

Add 1 more loss to NO, they are 12-4 vs LA 13-3 and LA get playoff home field advantage, not NO. Further, NO is then tied with Chi at 12-4 records and Bears get a 1st round bye based on their better NFC conference record.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
18. Horrible call. No guarantee the Saints would have won.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jan 2019

It wasn't a TD right at the end that was taken from them.

Yes, very likely they win, but not "clearly."

Side note: in the football side of your analogy, I hate the Saints (actually I hate Sean Payton and can't believe he is still allowed to coach after bountygate), so....

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
23. If the penalty is called
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:34 PM
Jan 2019

the Saints could have run the clock down to :05 before kicking a FG.
They would have won.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
64. Did the Saints come up short in OT because of the refs?
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:25 AM
Jan 2019

Nope. They could have won it in OT. They had the ball and were moving it until Brees threw tHat INT. Refs had nothing to do with that INT.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
71. I'll agree with that percentage.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jan 2019

So it wasn't "clearly" a win. A very likely win, for sure. There were still things that needed to happen.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
70. Very, very likely, yes.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jan 2019

Guaranteed? Nope. All kinds of crazy crap has happened. That's all I'm saying. It's not like they overturned a winning TD at the end of regulation. That's a guaranteed win.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
36. Fresh set of downs and the ability to run clock down to nothing
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jan 2019

Minimum, chip shot FG with no time left

Game over

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
73. They missed some calls which would have helped the Rams, too.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jan 2019

Might have given them more points. It wasn't like it was a perfectly called game until that point.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
37. Sure, but whether I enjoy or not enjoy my completely worthless pasttimes don't matter either.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:10 PM
Jan 2019

Not like the 2016 election that is setting back democracy in the US for a generation.

But I get it. A bad non-call and disappointment.

blur256

(979 posts)
27. That was just plain awful.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jan 2019

And now that the chiefs are losing wifey and I are boycotting the super bowl and will be going away for the weekend

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
29. It was certainly criminal
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jan 2019


What bothers me the most is that the Saints worked their asses off all year to be in the position they were in. Less than 2 mins left in the game and the game on the line. To have the refs blatantly steal it from them is a disgrace. The refs calling that game should be censured or fined.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
35. Terrible non-call. Almost as bad as the blatant face mask
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:08 PM
Jan 2019

penalty that wasn't called on the Saints.

But yeah, totally like the 2016 election.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
40. Nope. Bad call, yes, but to assume the Saints would have won is presumptuous.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jan 2019

They could have fumbled. They could have run the clock down and missed the field goal. They had a chance in OT to win it with a TD. They didn’t do that.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
60. So what? Reality is the refs could call holding on 95% of the plays in a given game.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:20 AM
Jan 2019

They don’t.

It was a bang-bang play that looked like no PI in real time. None of the officials called it. Had one ref called it it would have been reviewed and PI would have been confirmed. But none of them called it so it wasn’t reviewable.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
74. That sentiment warms my heart.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jan 2019

My wife doesn't like football. She asked why I hated the Saints so much. I said "2009. I'm pissed that Sean Peyton gets to coach in the NFL." She said "Isn't it time to let it go?" I told her I was still pissed about the Cowboys push-off in 1975.

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
76. When your premise is wrong, no, no one has to agree to that
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jan 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_television_ratings

Unlike the other pro sports leagues, the NFL is structured around parity, success is not predicated on city size and fan base. Whether it is tiny Green Bay, Wisconsin or massive New York City, they'll will draw the same.

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. If the penalty was called, they probably would have only had a field goal....
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:19 AM
Jan 2019

....with over a minute to go. Most likely it still would have gone to overtime. I'm a Saints fan (in the NFC), it wasn't a good call, but it probably didn't cost them the game.

Remember, the Saints got the ball first in the overtime. They had every chance to win, but were intercepted.

moondust

(19,963 posts)
62. They could have run the clock down
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:24 AM
Jan 2019

to about 4 seconds and kicked a gimme field goal from inside the 10 yard line.

Polybius

(15,340 posts)
65. If the penalty was called, it would be first and goal
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 03:19 AM
Jan 2019

Even if they didn’t score a TD, by the time they scored the field goal, there would be far more time shaved off. The Rams likely would not have enough time to get close enough to kick.

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
75. If the penalty was called
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jan 2019

they could have run down the clock to 5 seconds before kicking the FG. No time for LA to comeback.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
67. Everybody gets a bad call at a bad time. Human error. Saints should've played better.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:49 AM
Jan 2019

The Jets had a TD taken from them on a bad call that could've beat the Patriots.
I cant count the number of times the falcons have had a late game no-call cost them a game.
If the Saints even played close to their normal game, they wouldve won regardless.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
80. So in other words the NFL sucks...
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jan 2019

How to fight back, don't watch the stupid bowl.

Low ratings always wins.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
82. last one I watched was 2005
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jan 2019

Bears vs Colts. And I did not even make it to the 4th quarter. Another horrible officiated game.

edhopper

(33,491 posts)
86. You mean
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jan 2019

the non-roughing the passer call'

Yeah, that was bad, but they still had half a field to stop Brady.

But the Saints had a 99% chance of winning if that call is made.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
87. There were multiple shady calls in that 4th quarter
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jan 2019

But nobody wants to fuck with the official narrative so down the memory hole they go

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
89. I sure as hell won't be watching
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jan 2019

I've stopped watching any SB when New England is playing... I didn't even see last year, either.

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