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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStatement from Nick Sandmann the teenager who was in Nathan Phillip's face
Link to tweet
Just in: Statement of Nick Sandmann, Covington Catholic High School junior, about the event at the Lincoln Memorial:
tblue37
(64,982 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)tblue37
(64,982 posts)Siwsan
(26,177 posts)Very obvious what they were doing.
Demovictory9
(32,324 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)he had been participating in and he had traveled a long way to get to it. And that protest was to take away womens choice.
So, that is a pretty transparent lie.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)RAB910
(3,445 posts)Can't say that I am surprised
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)tblue37
(64,982 posts)DURHAM D
(32,596 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,369 posts)I thought that about smirk boy as well.
irisblue
(32,829 posts)Gothmog
(144,005 posts)nini
(16,670 posts)He didn't act startled and confused with a smirk like that on his face.
benld74
(9,889 posts)You are fibbing bigly time
tblue37
(64,982 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)His next shock will be the backlash to this letter and to his mothers.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Gonna be a Hannity hero.
He'll try to become the David Hogg of the MAGAts.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)He probably is planning on getting rich and famous off this. Smh.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
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Basement Beat
(659 posts)madaboutharry
(40,153 posts)I was wrong. I am deeply sorry. This experience has taught me that I must become a better person.
MBS
(9,688 posts)dalton99a
(81,070 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)Family or school, probably school.
walkingman
(7,512 posts)Miigwech
(3,741 posts)techne7319
(173 posts)So the student has a horrible memory or didnt watch the video of his (and his schoolmates) actions. Everything about his statement seems completely contrary to the clear and indisputable video. Whats most alarming is the claim that Nathan Philips singles out this particular student and confronted HIM. Sandmann also claims that his actions were an effort to diffuse a potentially hostile situation. Laughable, if it werent so sad
janx
(24,128 posts)Nathan & Co got in between the kids and the hate group in an effort to calm the situation down.
Thanks for clarification regarding what lead up to the stand-off. I still get the sense that Nathan and his group intended to continue marching while Sandmann and his schoolmates were blocking their path
janx
(24,128 posts)But it appears that after Nathan & Co stepped in to separate the kids from the crazies, he was essentially enveloped by kids and had nowhere to go. At least that's what he said.
This should be a great lesson for those kids, but I doubt if our current coarse and vulgar political culture will allow it.
dalton99a
(81,070 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)This whole situation has consumed me for the reasons that Nathan mentions in a thread I posted here in GD.
onlyadream
(2,159 posts)And get to know each other. Then make a public statement.
America needs to heal and stop this nonsense.
JohnnyLib2
(11,206 posts)TJKatd
(73 posts)JI7
(89,182 posts)of those fucks should do something to bring healing since they are responsible for the pain.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)In that point of view, a true victim somehow has some responsibility for healing the insult done to him or her.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,147 posts)onlyadream
(2,159 posts)I did, and while I can't claim to know what anyone was thinking, I believe that both the kid and Mr. Philips appear to be on the confrontational side. I think the kids' adrenaline was pumped up (due to the shouts from the other hate group) and this is what unfolded. If the two got together, I think it would show that we can heal.
Yes, they were wearing MAGA hats, and yes, they were there to protest women's right to chose. But they are kids. Many of whom may grow up and look at the world with new eyes at some point. We can't give up hope.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is how people like them role, only people close to them are human.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)defending the indefensible
MBS
(9,688 posts)His statement actually confirms that he is a jerk. No remorse, no emphathy. Wow.
(But all of his classmates doing a fake powwow in the background are just as bad).
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Just watch.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)dalton99a
(81,070 posts)McConnell will write him a recommendation letter for law school
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Bet he goes on Hannity.
MBS
(9,688 posts)"Build that wall" has to be a pretty unique school chant.
I don't believe a word.
Bettie
(15,998 posts)Which would make "build that wall" a school spirit chant that would make sense!
Oh, wait, no, it isn't. So, just a big lie.
Guess we can see how that school builds character in kids.
LiberalArkie
(15,686 posts)no_hypocrisy
(45,774 posts)PCIntern
(25,347 posts)Im confused/confusing.
janx
(24,128 posts)It's surprising that his lawyer would make it though. The statement must have been proofread a few times at least.
Croney
(4,646 posts)I think his mother wrote it. She'd support him if he stood in the middle of Fifth Avenue and...
womanofthehills
(8,584 posts)Now it's buses, but some still use the old spelling.
Buses vs. Busses | Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/plural-of-bus
tblue37
(64,982 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)It was my brain. But thank you.
tblue37
(64,982 posts)Someone had suggested that the spelling error meant it probably wasn't written by a lawyer. I was just disagreeing with that assessment.
janx
(24,128 posts)dalton99a
(81,070 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Siwsan
(26,177 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)Mostly fuck his (apparently) Bank executive Momma who is helping him to become a total tool, and an epic bigot.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
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gibraltar72
(7,486 posts)I believe him. They watched these kids go from, a group of 20 to 60 then about 200. Mr Philips says they put themselves in peril to prevent the mob from tearing apart the "Black Muslims". 99% of the time I'm gonna believe the person who isn't wearing the MAGAT hat.
janx
(24,128 posts)He was trying to get in between the kids and a small group of people associated with a hate group who were being horrible to the kids.
Here--take it from a woman who is a professional at studying extremists and hate groups:
Link to tweet
Ferrets are Cool
(21,063 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)2naSalit
(86,061 posts)from an hour prior to the "incident".
Credit to icypeas for posting this elsewhere...
The whole video is 1hr 46min. long. The incident is shortly after the one hour point.
apcalc
(4,461 posts)If their mouth is open, they are lying.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)He is learning to hate from the best worst hater.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)I don't buy the kid's story for a moment. I know what I saw in the video.
Rob H.
(5,340 posts)Dude. Come on. How dumb do you and the lawyer who wrote this think people are?
dlk
(11,438 posts)Except for the other entitled racists, of course.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)prezident.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)your smirk.
True Dough
(17,095 posts)are very telling about the true nature of these "innocent" students. They had an agenda.
tavernier
(12,322 posts)Sometimes it takes a couple of generations to know that you have done well.
So proud of most of our youth and responsible parenting. So sad for those children whose lives will forever be filled with anger and hate. Would have been better had they been given over to loving families. Children dont hate at birth... they are taught.
Stuart G
(38,365 posts)Always...I am a terrible liar...
...I hope your kids are the same. But I know they are...great job...!!!oh, not a great job..The Greatest Job!!
nini
(16,670 posts)That doesn't quite fit this explanation.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)dumbass would out himself. Now, God willing, that image will follow him wherever he goes.
janx
(24,128 posts)one is a racist. He does not know any better. He has not been taught.
Triloon
(506 posts)and started singing something weird. I just froze, nearly paralyzed with terror, and just tried to smile and look freindly and stay calm...
kacekwl
(6,994 posts)turned around and walked away. No one was blocking your path. All your fellow students who were around you praying could certainly helped you or your chaperone.
jrthin
(4,825 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 20, 2019, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I'm getting the hell out of Dodge. And I'm grown.
Raster
(20,996 posts)Dude, you are one of the MAIN REASONS the situation did get out of hand.
Lots of lawyering in that response. I'll bet his Mom hired an attorney (VP at Fidelity) and the Diocese hired an attorney
janx
(24,128 posts)Honestly, it is done for the most dishonest/self-serving reasons, and sometimes even cruel reasons, e.g. "I'll pray for you"--as a better-than-thou insult.
In this case, it insinuates that Nathan was some kind of threat. Man I hate this.
dalton99a
(81,070 posts)Yep, the corporate VP shelled out a little cash for a handcrafted essay to formalize her narrative
Rover1
(26 posts)I fault not the child messenger but the negligent adult wearing a blue hoodie appearing and quickly disappearing when the camera pans past the indians right shoulder. That's right ,the one briefly next to the other blue jacketed student. He was smirking and disappearing , not inquiring and intervening as a grown up would. Being from Kentucky ,I am ashamed but not surprised, to see rednecks (redhats) abound. In regard to the wall, I would be surprised to see Moscow Mitch agree to the standard process of presenting and approving bills and not the dictatorial process to which he is facilitating.
janx
(24,128 posts)Don't be ashamed about Kentucky; there are plenty of wonderful people in that state, and I admire your Southern language.
shanny
(6,709 posts)that was your pious face? suuuuuuuuure, I totally believe that
RobinA
(9,878 posts)Remind me not to visit DC for awhile. People flinging hate at each other.
yardwork
(61,418 posts)There seem to be a lot of lawyer-publicist written apologies being offered to the public.
This one is laughably lame.
At least now we know the name of Smirk Boy for sure.
Response to octoberlib (Original post)
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TygrBright
(20,733 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)And here is what I think of the bullshittery disguised as a letter
$50 says the Rump sticks up for him in some way. Might be through SHS or Kellyanne, but it will be there soon.
Bonx
(2,041 posts)in the full video. Disgusting.
LeftInTX
(24,560 posts)If so, stupid teacher.
They should have just gone further up the steps and ignored the Black Hebrews. The teacher could have simply said to the students, "Those people down there really are kinda not normal, but they are exercising their free speech"...Or something like that. There will always be kooks in a big city. (There are probably kooks in Covington)
I remember when I went to NYC when I was in HS. My dad told me there would be weirdos. We got to see drunk people sleeping on park benches and stuff like that. (I was from northern WI and it was 1974) But we did as we were told and ignored them.
Stupid teacher
RobinA
(9,878 posts)is hideous. The video doesnt even have this kid on it and you hardly even see the drummer. Certainly nowhere on it is whatever happened between the two of them. This young mans big crime, as far as anything Ive seen, is wearing a MAGA hat. Without something actually showing Sandmann doing something, this whole outcry is a disgusting, uncalled for pile-on.
And yes, his statement is self serving, as is the drummers.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)You support a racist idiot and excuse his sickening behavior? Then fuck you.
Yeah, I'm intolerant when it comes to anyone who wears those ugly red abominations on their head. They're symbols of hate.
nini
(16,670 posts)and my outrage is justified.
IF what he said was true his posse behind him would have horrified looks on their faces - not laughing and encouraging the mocking.
These kids are no better than the Charlottesville nazis really.. They're just younger and unarmed which I'm sure they'll grow into.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)LeftInTX
(24,560 posts)"I believed that by remaining motionless and calm....."
This isn't corporate attorney speak......it's criminal defense attorney speak..
dalton99a
(81,070 posts)Response to octoberlib (Original post)
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)Online I discussed it with some Native Americans. In real life I discussed the situation with Native Americans. The break down is this. A large group of kids reacted to a small handful of black men who were harassing them with crazy, very offensive ralk. The kids stared their school chants in retaliation. The other group yelled and cussed at them.
In the background you could hear drumming. Phillips came up between the groups the kids started reacting to him. Lots of mocking, back and forth with another member of Phillips party. The kids were making fun of the drumming and singing. A couple of the kids seemed to enjoy it. Mostly, though, they reacted poorly and Phillips himself realized rather than diffusing the situation, he had made himself a target.
The kids, in MAGA hats, only saw skin color and a culture foreign to them. The drumming and singing meant nothing to them. I dont know what NA culture is like in Kentucky, but in the Northwest it permeates everything. The kids seemed to have very little cultural competency.
These kids will flip the narritive because they are white, the smirking kid wont learn a motherfucking thing because he is white, and the son of the kind of asshole that lets them go to a march intending to murder women through pregnancy.
The biggest question I had was where were the adults. Filming the whole thing apparently. Not surprising.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Thanks for posting it.