McTURTLE is the key to ending this!! He needs somebody in his face at ALL TIMES!! Maybe some how put pressure on the other RETHUGS to get TURTLFACE to allow a voter!!!!!!!!!

If they can be made to see that he's the problem then something might be done.

just so I could say I was in Kentucky because I'd like to have been in all 50 states, but that's as close as I wanted to get. The stupidest person I ever met was from Possum Trot, Kentucky.

It is in Hebron, Kentucky.

maybe start a campaign against the turtleman?

I am beginning to think they are the most backward and racist state in the union.

I am sick to death of all Kentuckians being thrown into the same pot as our two senators here! There are a number of people from Kentucky on this site. I don't see any other state being wholly maligned like this.

Kentucky is a beautiful and great state, that just happens to have some asshole politicians at the moment. If we are on DU, we are not like them.



AND another thing--Get off my Bluegrass lawn!

Because they are his voters.
It would have to come from Republicans, though, to make any impact.
That's why a public campaign in Kentucky blaming McConnell for keeping the shutdown going might have some effect.

Is a message saying his VM is full. I have emailed him dozens of times, and may get a canned letter months later.

The best we can do is vote him out in 2020. I am fully behind that effort.

He demanded that Obama stonewall what he had learned from the intelligence community and about Russian *assistance* to Commie Cheetolini prior to the election*. That alone proved he doesn't give a shit about America. He is determined to have white, one party rule in perpetuity and he doesn't care that the "party" involved is not committed to the republic of the United States or its people. He's as treacherous as tRump.

I'd change 'treacherous' in that last sentence to 'treasonous,' because to my mind that's what this is. Treason.

Constitutionally and legally, in order to be branded a traitor, one must have given aid and comfort, i.e., assistance or conspiratorially, to an enemy of the country that we have declared war on, whether in retaliation or preemptively. As we are not at war with Russia, he cannot legally be classified and called a traitor. We never declared war on Saudi Arabia back in the day when OBL used terrorists to take out the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. We, instead, declared a War on Terror that led to all the extreme renditions and cyber warfare (mostly on our own citizens in the case of cyber warfare and other types of intelligence intercepts on everyday Americans). Before that, we engaged in the Cold War, which involved Russia among all the others, but we never had a declared war specifically on Russia.

Now, do I think the bug-eyed turtle is a traitor? You damn bet your ass I do. He ought to taken out back of the U.S. House of Representatives, lined up on the wall there and shot at noon in front of television cameras. I hate this bastard even more than I hate tRump, and I would've thought all but impossible.

It may not have the same punch as treason but it's more appropriate.

in the halls of the capital building as mobs. We should show him mobs.

Recall when the French citizenry rose up against the Monarchy , which resulted in the overthrowing of Louis XVI and Marie Antionnette, and their ensuing execution. Push people to the brink, and they will eventually take matters into their own hands. Republicans will have to hire their own security because the Secret Service should not have to risk their lives for the cheapskates.

Federal workers should walk off the job and cripple the skies, roadways, etc., until the Government reopens. For Federal workers need more than the charity of others, they NEED Government to open and operate.

Now you're talking.

It's so easy to demand that others stop working, thereby putting their jobs at risk.

I'll tell you a story.

In 1925 in Colorado, the Ku Klux Klan ruled. It was their heyday. My great uncle Percy worked as a grocer in the Piggly Wiggly supermarket in Colorado Springs.

His boss came up to him one day and said, "Either you join the Klan or you're fired."

Percy walked off the job that day.

I'm very proud of him.

My grandfather was a union organizer. I'm also proud of him.

So, yeah, if there's a general strike I will be participating. You know what else? If we ALL do it, no one will lose their job. Dirtbags like the Koch brothers and other billionaire parasites have been busting unions with impunity for decades. The door was opened when Taft-Hartley passed in 1948, making general or sympathy strikes illegal. Then Reagan took it to a whole new level.

This is what happened:

https://www.epi.org/m/?src=&w=608

So, yeah, it's about time workers rose up and took back their share of wealth. If we all put our hands in our pockets, the Wall Street lizards and C-suite people could last maybe a month, but no longer. Can you last a month? I can.

... they've kept their Unions strong, and their economy prospered. I hope we will come to once again realize how important Unions really are, and what we lose without having strong Unions.

"It's so easy to demand that others stop working, thereby putting their jobs at risk."

Almost as easy as the pretense someone is 'demanding' something.

But I get it... often we have to pretend in order to feel righteous.

French Revolution was motivated mainly by failing food harvests. Sadly people are just too indifferent these days as long as they have something to eat.

our Reps and Senators whether repigs or Democrats need to get on this, this is NOT NORMAL. And there are many of us who see this situation of not being NORMAL.

During the Muslim ban people banned together and stopped this despicable action. ACLU was on it.

Never underestimate the power of people. We need to do this. I understand the Senators and Representatives are home please call your local offices. I know I will.

This is certainly bothering me, and if air travel gets to be a problem this will reach to other countries too.

at this point I think it may take rioting in the street and a general strike to move McConell to action. I'm sure there are plenty of poor people in Kentucky who will not be receiving their food stamps in the very near future.

On Trumps $5.7 billion.

No apparent sign that he is preparing to do so...

Thanks in advance...

I believe it's RUMPS bill, that TURTLEHEAD will allow a vote to proceed. HE will not allow a vote on the house version!!!

where (happily) it will be changed and/or marked up by the democratically controlled House of Rep, eh?

Thanks for the status!!

GO NANCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEA!!!

would result in a violent and repressive crackdown. It would be just the thing to give Trump the excuse to protect "ordinary, decent, law-abiding Americans" from "those Antifa and BLM thugs." I wouldn't put it past him to declare martial law, and I wouldn't put it past his enablers and worshippers to enthusiastically go along with that.

I don't advocate rioting - I'm right with you on that.

But what about a national strike?

who will riot, and then trigger the scenario in reply #27 anyway.

Thanks for bringing this up, it happens more than we think. Watch for it, calll it out and nip it in the bud!

I am in no way advocating violence here, it's just a prediction. Historically this is how people react when denied basic human needs.

Patrickfor() is absolutely correct. So many times in the past we talked a good game of prosecuting their crimes only to back off and let it slide. NOT THIS TIME! We have to be on their backs 24/7! Let's nail these fuckers!

fascists destroy a country little by little, the changes are small & people forget. Much of the population weren't alive during the golden age when a family could live off one paycheck and had enough money & time to take vacations, demonstrate against the fascists. Now they are too busy working 2 or 3 jobs, worried about paying off student loans, losing their home or going bankrupt over their healthcare costs.

I'm on Section 8 and food stamps.

for the month of January this week but none in February. I had to help my friend earlier today. She had no idea.

January was paid.
"They" say February will be paid.
(They being the head of the local Section 8)

After that, 'they' hope to have reserve funds available.

"When we take power, we must hold these criminals accountable for their treason, crimes against humanity, and utter corruption."

No more "Let's not revisit the wounds of the past. Let's just look forward." The basta(R)ds rely on getting away scot-free after plundering and destroying the country.

While I admire the "Truth and Reconciliation" movements I think we need a whole lot of Truth, Cleansing, and Guilty Pleas with some significant punishments. (Please ask me what I think is appropriate for Cheney, Rove, Murdoch, etc. I'll be happy to put a menu together for your delectation.)

Some will remember but by the time the next election comes around this will all be ancient history.

The Republicans are willing to let their reputation suffer right now because they have 2 years to recover which is plenty of time to put this whole incident behind them.

We didn't forget at Nuremberg. We held those people accountable.

The current total national debt is only (only!) $20 trillion.

1.7 trillion.

Here are the figures. This from the Weekly Standard.


.https://www.weeklystandard.com/irwin-m-stelzer/national-debt-under-trump-rises-to-21-7-trillion

and I mean all his activities public and private, shut down until he opens the government. If he refuses, I would suggest contacting all the r senators be contacted and told to toss him out of the leadership role because he has failed his oath of office and thus, We the People. He needs to be removed from the leadership role and replaced by someone who will open up the government to fucking day.

with these mofos? Seriously, if thousands of people are at the door ready to physically remove them from the hall...

I'm thinking it's half past pitchfork and torches time.

The Senate knows that all federal government employees are explicitly forbidden from striking. We are also required to report for work, without pay, if so ordered. It is written into the employment agreement when hired. Many of us, I work for the IRS, enjoy and like our jobs and are not in a position to quit and find work elsewhere. Due to age or personal situations quitting or being fired would only make our lives worse so we try to hang on and hope for the best when dealing with an immature president and a narcissistic Senate leader.

Our fellow citizens need to step up and shut down all aspects of our country until everyone is back to work and are being paid. We are all in this together and until everyone feels the pain of not receiving needed services from all areas of society will Congress and the Orange Mussolini feel the ramifications of their game play. Truckers need to stop delivering food and goods, pilots need to refuse to fly, teachers stop teaching, don’t just shut down the government, shutdown the country. Panic would race through the White House like receiving a Mueller subpoena if Cheeto Man couldn’t get his Big Macs. Just a suggestion.

PS - I failed to mention IRS employees are also forbidden from getting part time jobs to tide them over until they go back to work. All part time jobs are required to be approved by their supervisor before applying. They want to make sure there is no conflict of interest and especially no filing of taxes for pay.

We need a general strike to make Turtle and Cheetoh understand.

the bastard living in our WH. It will lead to the GOP Senate caving. The bastard never will -- he can't, his ego won't allow it.

Since the 1970s, the Koches and their donor network has been trying to destroy government to cut taxes on the rich.
Trump would be impeached by now if Republicans and their donors wanted him out. They don’t want him out because they like shutting down government. They want to damage and destroy government. Because they want to enrich themselves and they don’t care about 99% of Americans.

I talked to my former sister-in-law today who lives in the DC/VA area. She and her husband are both furloughed without pay. She's a federal employee in the CalFresh program, he's a federal contractor and won't be paid even after the shutdown ends probably.

They are canceling services they normally used, costing businesses money. They cancelled a house cleaning service, for instance.

Their daughter is a professional dog walker. Her business is down because federal workers off work aren't hiring them.

Some furloughed workers are looking for part-time jobs, which further puts pressure on others who are looking for work as their opportunities lessen.

The only ones benefitting are school kids because a lot of very smart federal workers in the DC area are taking jobs as substitute teachers.

But of course once education funding runs out, that will negatively impact the kids, too.

Grant awards disbursements are now delayed. New grant opportunities are delayed. RFP decisions are delayed. This thing is snowballing like this in all sorts of sectors that most folks don't even think about, education included.

Even Door Dash/Grubhub/PostMates have not gotten very much delivery orders... Normally it's very busy, but since the 2nd week of the shutdown, everything just spiraled down next to nothing. I work for both Door Dash and Postmates... volume delivery is very important in making $$. When you wait minutes or hours before the next one, it's costing you money.

Text RESIST to 50409 and you can sign up (for free) to text your Senators, your Congressional Rep and/or your Governor. I think it's sent as an email. It will send to them no matter if they're Democrat, Republican or Indy.

let your voices be heard that you don't negotiate with terrorists

nt

for those not familiar:
https://www.bna.com/wanna-join-trump-b57982085087/

Thanks for the post.

The sooner the better.

for visibility

Shutter government.

Sow chaos in the land.

Crash the economy with taxes and tariffs.

Halt commerce and trade.

Empty out the government employees.

Appoint stooges and incompetents to executive and cabinet positions.

All to weaken America and the Western Alliance.

Wake up! Wake up!

Fascism/autocratic rule nearly here!

This isn't really about a damn wall. It's all just an excuse to sow chaos, to "weaken America and the Western Alliance."

Without a doubt, Trump is a traitor.

re-opens.

We need a general strike to support the 800,000 and all the other collateral victims. The bastard living in our WH won't do it, he will never accept defeat until he is forced to. We can force him. We can all strike and be present in the streets to support the victims of this insane shutdown and presidency.

We each has an obligation to do this. We owe it to each other and our country.

We have an obligation.

The TSA folks got us through security. The Air Traffic Controllers safely guided our 737 to Denver. I trust that Customs will be on hand to welcome us home next week.

To put these folks through the stress that they are incurring is un-conscionable!

If this is "MAKING AMERICA GREAT", I want to sign up for a different plan!

Love the fact that the FBI is crying about lack of pay absolutely love it maybe next time they won't guarantee a fucking asshole gets elected. 100% behind Nancy Pelosi. Hate the fact that their finances are being negatively impacted so they have to report themselves as security risks subject to blackmail by China Russia xcetera but love the fact that they can only blame the man they got elected.