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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter being in Europe and Africa and Asia a few times
including with in this past month...the one thing about the US is they have the best drivers IMHO
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)She couldnt believe Americans actually follow traffic signals and rules of the road.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)I was driving, he was "back seat driving". He kept saying I should run the lights and close the gap between us and the car in front of us. I kept telling him he was absolutely correct, then drove the way I wanted to.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)Try to drive from Logan Airport to downtown in 5 PM traffic.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I let them do the cursing while I focus on why I am in Boston to begin with.
marlakay
(11,451 posts)We parked outside of town and took subway.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Interesting place, with seemingly a lot of weirdly configured streets, to me that would be more troubling than idiot drivers.
JDC
(10,125 posts)Transitions to the Tobin or Gov Center or 93...Sumner...Sometimes you just have to be a jackass or it can cost you hours to get back to your right route. Stuck in Cambridge at 5.... You are sca-rewed. Northbound 1 to 95 north, uhhhggg.
Maybe get lucky and have to grab gas in Revere......
So.many.times.
I moved back to CO last summer and laugh at people who think the traffic here is bad.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)5 cars in front of them at a light and they can't stand the "rush hour" traffic.
brush
(53,764 posts)California, imo, has the best drivers overall, New York the most aggressive.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)assuming they were moving. Somebody in the left lane going a bit too slow? Driver behind flashes lights; driver in front moves over; guy goes by; driver moves back....flow.
Didn't see the aggressive lane changes / zigzagging back and forth I've seen elsewhere.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)At least they know to keep right and then pass on the left, whereas here anybody drives in any old lane with the occasional mad slalomer trying to find his way through the chaos.
ETA: Also, lots of drivers here in rainy Seattle do not know to turn their headlights on when it's raining either. I suspect they think their headlights are to help them see better rather than help them being seen.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)I was there in October for the first time and I found it to be a good experience for the same reasons you mentioned. We lived in the right lane but every once in a while it was fun to open it up a little.
My state recently made left lane driving illegal on highways. You can only use it for passing. Drivers observed cruising in the left lane for long periods are cited.
applegrove
(118,622 posts)in Ottawa. US residents could get their licenses transferred with no written or road tests. Europe and the rest of the world not so much.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I drove there last fall. By far the most disciplined and rule abiding drivers I have ever seen. When they drive, they drive.
Imagine the carnage on our interstates if areas had no speed limits. Yet it works there due to their superior driving skills.
Even Northern France seemed better than here.
Italy? Not so much. And in China you gamble with your life!!
DFW
(54,341 posts)Your description is not the Germany my wife and I contend with. German drivers, as a rule, are supremely aggressive, inconsiderate, and prefer risking a fatal accident than passing up a chance to overtake the car in front of them. The one thing my wife really looks forward to about vacations in the USA is the less aggressive driving. California is the best, Massachusetts is the worst, and its still ten times more relaxing than trying to get from Düsseldorf to Köln. She has been the miraculous survivor of more than one instance where only pure luck saved her from a wreck caused by an aggressive German. Germans do not slow down for minor hindrances like thick fog, icy highways or pedestrians. Those winter crashes involving sixty cars and five dead are not the exception, but the rule.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)We drove from Munich to Freiburg then on to Heidleberg where we spent a week driving around seeing the sites.
My perspective was of excellent drivers although I will agree somewhat aggressive.
But i did not see drivers spend more time texting than driving which is so common here that we expect people to be distracted and they often are. Nor people trying to drive why eating a Big Mac and fries, which is also common. Not necessarily a Big Mac, but get my meaning.
While I will redibly admit my perspective is one gained why having a great vacation, and not to be trusted, the German drivers were at least paying attention. Where I live, in central Florida, I would guess over a third of the drivers are doing something that takes a priority to driving. Here, you cannot be stopped for talking on your cell nor texting. They are secondary offenses.
DFW
(54,341 posts)Doing that at 120 miles an hour amounts to attempted murder if there is anyone else on the road, and the Germans finally woke up. That can lose you your license.
They are mostly accustomed to the high speeds but still drive recklessly. German TV did a documentary filmed at a spot on the Autobahn where reckless drivers drove into a concrete bridge foundation with some regularity. The ones that crawled out of their wrecks alive were asked if they would drive more carefully in the future. Most of them (all men driving alone btw) were baffled by the question, asking what in the world for? Im not kidding. That is the mentality here. Welcome to the real Germany. Its not always what it seems (for that matter, what is?).
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I must say, I am happy to see less DU post holding European social programs as paradise. While there are many things in Western European nations I would like to see here, I have traveled enough to know it is no Nirvana. Hopefully more DUers are starting to read about about the reality in all nations.
Have a nice evening. Late over there.
DFW
(54,341 posts)I was just in D.C. and am trying to get home. Delta put us on a defective plane, left us there for over an hour, took us off, saying they had found another plane. I am now in the Atlanta airport, so if Delta cant find a plane here, they cant find one anywhere. If Im lucky, Ill get home 4 hours late, and I have to be in Sprout City by 10 the next morning.
It is slowly dawning on me why some people retire.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And Delta is my preferred Airline.
Hope you get home safe.
Sprout City??
DFW
(54,341 posts)You see how much good THAT does me!
Sprout City: company slang: Brussels
DFW
(54,341 posts)Three and a half hours late, but this is why I always try to take nonstops if I can--no connections to miss.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)anywhere.
And I think the death rate here is probably higher.
Insurance rates certainly are.
EX500rider
(10,839 posts)The US is at the low end of the scale, at 12 deaths per 100,000 cars per year. The American continent avg is 33.
Europe's avg is 19.
Norway is at the very low end of the scale at 3 per.
India is 130. China is 104.
And at the high end of the scale we have Africa overall at 574, with Guinea the worst at 9,462.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)US: 12.9 per 100,000
Germany: 6.8 despite large sections of the freeways having no defined speed limit. Better drivers, fewer jalopies on the road being probably the biggest factors.
The high European average is caused by countries in Eastern Europe & Turkey with death rates well over 30.
DFW
(54,341 posts)If my wife had been in a Chevy or a Ford (or a VW for that matter), Id have been a widower twice over by now. Also, its geographically compact so help arrives quickly, and they are experts by now at trauma medicine. They save or at least keep alive for 30 days, a lot of crash victims. After 30 days, you no longer officially die from crash injuries, wven if you really did. They use these stats to show how much safer it is to drive in Germany. Take it from one who is out on their roads all the time: if youre not driving a tank, it can get very intimidating.
EX500rider
(10,839 posts)JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Never seen anything like it.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Europe has trains, subways, buses, etc.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Worst drivers in America...bar none.