The president's vote is not required to re-open the government. AOC knew where to focus attention, by going to the Senate. All the Dems should ignore Trump and focus on Mitch.

And the new "Trump versus Pelosi" theme. Like pro-wrestling, with the good versus evil meme.

I fully agree!! Mcturtle needs to be pressed to call for a VOTE! Not on RUMPS bill but on the House version!!

i agree with the OP, things are going downhill quite fast now and by mid-February we are likely to be stuck in a very unpleasant situation.

it will be 10x worse later

we really dug a deep hole for ourselves in 2016. we aren't getting out of this without sacrifice and misery. i guess it's just a question of how much the nation can take while remaining committed to being a nation. impossible to know in advance, i suppose we find out now.

TSA is going to revolt before then. The whole country virtually shuts down if TSA doesn't show up one day

for over 2 weeks.

They're probably never heard, but I dare any of 'em to come here to central Alaska and try to get away without hearing from all the hungry, broke Fed employees. We have more proportionally than any other state.

Hang on Govt workers. You're on the front line. NEVER vote gop again.

TSA agents and possibly air traffic controllers.

I don't see how Trump and the Republicans can keep a shutdown going on when air travel is significantly affected.

But the blind and the racist base will remain.

Racists and the fearful need a simple symbol.

There is a wall in the mind of every Trump supporter, between "true Americans" (their "us&quot and degenerate foreign influences (their "them&quot

They don't see it as a matter of regulating immigration, they see it as a last stand against the erosion of what they think their America is about.

It is their "idealized" version of what the US was, or should have been.

FUCK THEM. Stamp out the gop. They are digging their own grave. I'll gladly throw the first handful of dirt in.

Do we rely on the integrity of the GOP?

This is dt playing power games he always dreamt of. Your times coming donnie girl.

nt

and they don't all fly private. Folks who work for TSA will not be able to keep coming in. Now they can't give out information on the percent who call in sick. If you have to wait 3-4 hours at security, the system can't work. That might happen very soon. I think the house should pass a bill to pay all airport and airline related folks and see if McConnell will bring it up.

It should be all agencies.

Charge for the use of the airways, for landing, for using instrument approaches. All in the name of the "free market." Watch this proposal resurface in the next couple of weeks.

In the interim, military controllers can handle to job.

She is looking for him.

But logic is not exactly Trump's forte.

Federal courts run out of money at the end of this week.

The deluge will be huge as Democrats will add to their numbers in the House and retake the Senate.

The White House will go back to the Dems. The cleanup begins NOW.

But the country cannot wait for January 2021.

nt.

go here and read this DU'er suggestions which I already took

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211704487

All 3 of my members of Congress are Democrats, but I will call them tomorrow.

are lucky I have 3 Democrats too.

His cult wants a government that doesn't function.

They want the government crippled

I really believe that.

and it's not the USA.

He is doing Putin's bidding. The more chaos, the happier his handlers are.

It will be on the backs of the most vulnerable then

The signal of a disintegrating empire.

Spotlight is bright.

When the NFL fans can’t get through TSA lines at a sane clip, his supporters will turn on him.

The Super Bowl is in two weeks.

NFL has a waiver signed by host city to pick up the security tab, and the event is considered by the government to be second to (ironically enough) the State of the Union Address in terms of its threat rating.

If recent superbowl's are any indication, the Secret Service, FBI, TSA, ICE, and Customs and Border Protection in addition to city police and county sheriff's departments are all involved. Last year, the direct-dollar sum for security was just over $7 million.

Given that this year's even takes place in the city with the busiest airport in the US, the cost could be even higher.

To drive out employees, and then refuse to replace them.

From Day One, Donnie Two Scoops' assignment has to been to disrupt and destroy the United States from within. His unrecorded meetings and telephone calls with Putin are performance reviews and getting new instructions.

We have an agent of a hostile power as president.

But my reason is slightly different. His main goal is to keep pushing hard to follow his campaign promises. He is many things (narcissistic, stubborn, rude, heartless etc) but he is not stupid. He correctly has concluded that his base will jump off his ship in droves if he caves on campaign promises and then his chance of re-election is zero to none.

Therefore I see no chance he caves on the Wall and opens the government. Working through McFconnell has a better chance.

One possibility.

That gives Trump a way to save face with his base. He can blame lack of wall on someone else, not him caving in.

The MAGA hat wearers are blind to everything.

he is the best face ever. But that is not the point.
The point is Trump is aware that only hope he has of re-election is to hold on to his base.
If there is even a small perception that he is caving on his campaign promises, he is toast.
Which is why I do not expect him to open the gov't until Jan 2021 unless forced by congress.

My view.

Putin's goal was to bring chaos to order. Mission almost accomplished. Give it another month. Things will be in such chaos Trump will be justified calling martial law. That was the goal all along.

If Trump tries to declare martial law, every dirty thing he has ever done will suddenly be leaked to the press. It will be Deep Throat on steroids.

Putin knows he cannot compete militarily. So using an inside agent, a witting or unwitting agent, makes sense.

So tired of these panicky posts.

...but I am feeling pretty panicky these days. If Trump decimates the FBI, law enforcement, courts weakening that whole infrastructure sufficiently, who will hold him accountable? How will we maintain order? I hope I'm just freaking out for nothing.

Trump can make billions if he keeps the government shut down--plus he distracts from the Mueller investigation and the coming House hearings.

But the thing to remember is that Mueller is not distracted. Only the corporate media is distracted.

Will have to get of his closet now.

Fortunately, Mueller and his Office are not affected by the shutdown, as their funding comes from a multi-year account.

Mueller is focused on finding the truth, and Trump is focused on lying and covering up his many crimes.

And this will only get worse if anything is gained from this by him.

of the Mueller investigation", is irrelevant. Mueller does what Mueller does, whether tRump shuts
down the government or has a naked gorilla marching down the street with bells on his toes proclaiming his innocence. tRump may feel it's a diversion, but that just shows how foolish and uninformed he is about Mueller's methods and plan of action. It's just another example of his stupidity if he thinks anything he does now will redirect or overthrow Mueller's investigation in any way. Mueller has brains and focus, both of which are sorely lacking in the criminal.

But Trump, whatever he is not, knows how the US reality television style corporate media value flash over substance.

There is a very rude awakening waiting for him when Mueller's report is released. <please, please>