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greyl

(22,990 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:19 AM Jan 2019

Trump proposal to re-open the government is out and it's more than a 1,000 pages long




Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche
2minutes ago

LONG READ: The Trump proposal to re-open the government is out and it’s more than a 1,000 pages long. A look at what Sen McConnell is putting forth. https://t.co/Fz9k9gTxP6

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Trump proposal to re-open the government is out and it's more than a 1,000 pages long (Original Post) greyl Jan 2019 OP
look for the handwritten scribble dweller Jan 2019 #1
that's a long ransom note torius Jan 2019 #2
Steve miller and Jared were pretty busy on this proposal... Old Vet Jan 2019 #12
This was the point of the Saturday speech. To make it look like the Senate was doing something. manor321 Jan 2019 #3
This Is Why The MSM Has To Keep On Playing The Clip From The Oval Office Meeting Where..... global1 Jan 2019 #4
This. volstork Jan 2019 #5
The GOP is trying to nullify the midterm election. CottonBear Jan 2019 #8
Exactly...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #9
998 pages say only, "No collusion." nt Purrfessor Jan 2019 #6
A thousand pages, huh? gratuitous Jan 2019 #7
What is buried and hidden in the document is mfcorey1 Jan 2019 #10
NO DEAL! nt alphafemale Jan 2019 #11
It's long because it includes the appropriations for all DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #13
The KGOP repubes just happened to have this sitting on a shelf Achilleaze Jan 2019 #14
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
3. This was the point of the Saturday speech. To make it look like the Senate was doing something.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:32 AM
Jan 2019

And of course the press will completely fall for this, asking Dems why they won't "compromise". The press will ignore the fact that these debates can go on, after the government is re-opened. Trump and Mitch are openly using the government as a hostage in a negotiating scheme. And still most of the press ignores this.

global1

(25,167 posts)
4. This Is Why The MSM Has To Keep On Playing The Clip From The Oval Office Meeting Where.....
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:37 AM
Jan 2019

Trump took the responsibility for the shutdown.

This clip and quote needs to be embedded into the minds of the American People so that they know that this is a Trump shutdown.

In Trump's own words:

“I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it…. I will take the mantle of shutting down.”

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
8. The GOP is trying to nullify the midterm election.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:16 AM
Jan 2019

See this comment by Voltaire2 in a discussion from a previous thread:



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211701214

Voltaire2
3. It is about trying to nullify the midterm election
If the Republicans can compel the house to pass legislation they would otherwise oppose, the election was nearly irrelevant.


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. A thousand pages, huh?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:47 AM
Jan 2019

I seem to recall the Tea Baggers making a big deal out of bills coming to a vote without any time for everyone to read them. I wonder of any of them are going to come down on McConnell for trying to sneak through a thousand page slab o' legislation?

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
13. It's long because it includes the appropriations for all
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 07:15 AM
Jan 2019

depts currently closed. Essentially, it's the one bill the House passed to fund all agencies except DHS grafted onto Trump's Sat "proposal".

But, the seeds of how this will end are in there. Last night on MSNBC, Joaquin Castro noted that everyone wants "border security". Shelby's proposal also uses the words "border security". IMHO, there'll be some extra amount of $ for "border security" agreed to by Dems, but Rs will have to give up insisting it's for "a wall".

Most people don't realize that there are 2 parts to government spending. First are the appropriations bills that say how much money each agency gets and for what. Second are the authorization bills that tell the agencies HOW they can spend the money. For ex, DHS can be told it has x dollars for border security and that can be spent to hire agents, immigration judges, technology, repair of existing border fencing, but can't be spent on new construction.

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