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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:06 AM Jan 2019

My top 4: Harris, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Warren

They are all strong, smart, powerful women who would each by outstanding as POTUS.

In the Senate, Harris, Gillibrand, and Warren have some of the strongest anti-Trump voting records of anyone.

Gillibrand has the top anti-Trump score, Warren is 3rd, and Harris is 7th.

Each of them has issues, as every potential candidate does, but they also each have their own unique strengths, as well.

It is so exciting to have reached a point in our history that we have four major presidential candidates in our party who are women.

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My top 4: Harris, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Warren (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2019 OP
Your 4th point is the real clincher! nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #1
I am leaning Warren... Blue1963 Jan 2019 #2
You want to win the firewall states exboyfil Jan 2019 #3
Yes. I like her! -nt CrispyQ Jan 2019 #18
A big yes! PatSeg Jan 2019 #33
Gabbard? Why? comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #4
One of these things is not like the others... jcgoldie Jan 2019 #5
Gabbard is not a major political candidate but I'm glad you like her. Better write her name in UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #6
Harris is my #1 agingdem Jan 2019 #7
Since you asked, and in no particular order, Harris, Biden, Castro, Booker..... Oh wait, I like all still_one Jan 2019 #8
My top 3 so far FrankBooth Jan 2019 #9
regarding Gabbard FrankBooth Jan 2019 #23
I like Harris and Warren. Adrahil Jan 2019 #10
What is your source for "anti-Trump score"? WheelWalker Jan 2019 #11
538.com Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #19
All of them have "problems" that will be exploited during the primaries... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #12
My top picks right now: Initech Jan 2019 #13
I like that. joshcryer Jan 2019 #24
A Biden / Beto ticket would be the best as well. Initech Jan 2019 #26
That is my top choice. Doreen Jan 2019 #58
Those all sound like great tickets PatSeg Jan 2019 #35
Is Klobuchar enough of a household name though to be able to attract voters? Initech Jan 2019 #38
I'd never heard of Bill Clinton PatSeg Jan 2019 #44
Cory Booker with Klobuchar exboyfil Jan 2019 #39
Booker or Gillum PatSeg Jan 2019 #45
2 and 4 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #61
I'm excited as well. I think things are lining up great. My current list. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #14
Mine are Harris, Warren and Klobuchar. octoberlib Jan 2019 #15
That's a better list. I hope Chris Murphy runs too. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #20
That's a good list PatSeg Jan 2019 #36
Gillibrand will, but won't get far LeftInTX Jan 2019 #42
This has to be a joke Renew Deal Jan 2019 #16
How not to get Recs Yosemito Jan 2019 #17
Klobuchar MrGrieves Jan 2019 #21
I think Harris has the star power.* joshcryer Jan 2019 #22
Gabbard BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #25
Gillibrand lost me when she went after Al Franken MiniMe Jan 2019 #27
I have heard this before - but do check out her voting record in the Senate oberliner Jan 2019 #28
How many is too many strong candidates? LanternWaste Jan 2019 #29
Sorry, can't forgive her for that MiniMe Jan 2019 #30
And Tulsi Gabbard? MiniMe Jan 2019 #31
Ha. Bucky Jan 2019 #32
And then compare it to her voting record PatSeg Jan 2019 #37
She has the most anti-Trump voting record of anyone in the US Senate oberliner Jan 2019 #40
I hate to be cynical, PatSeg Jan 2019 #46
Harris and Warren called for Franken to resign too Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #53
Interesting post. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #34
Thank you oberliner Jan 2019 #41
Just no to Gabbard. She's horrible. OliverQ Jan 2019 #43
+10000000000000 Initech Jan 2019 #63
This is going to be a mess but entertaining madville Jan 2019 #47
My top 4 begins with Biden/Klobuchar WheelWalker Jan 2019 #48
I like Brown/Klobuchar. Two midwesterners. STRONG ticket. LBM20 Jan 2019 #50
Gillibrand? No Way! She'll never get it. The Franken problem kills it for her. Gabbard? Nope. LBM20 Jan 2019 #49
Harris and Warren had the same position with respect to Franken as Gillibrand oberliner Jan 2019 #52
I fault them all, but Gillibrand led the way. The others were bandwagoners. It was all bullshit. LBM20 Jan 2019 #62
No Gabbard, no Gillibrand. MrsMatt Jan 2019 #51
Has Klobacher said she is running? oberliner Jan 2019 #54
Don't have any inside knowledge MrsMatt Jan 2019 #57
Someone posted on here some papers left in a Minneapolis diner... jcgoldie Jan 2019 #60
Neither Gabbard or Gillibrand would ever get my primary vote /eom pecosbob Jan 2019 #55
I wouldn't be happy about Gillibrand or Gabbard. Vinca Jan 2019 #56
I like Warren and Klobuchar about the same. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #59
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Gabbard is not a major political candidate but I'm glad you like her. Better write her name in
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jan 2019

pencil though.

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
7. Harris is my #1
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jan 2019

articulate, professional, positive, motivated, forceful, experienced, earned her stripes in California and in the Senate...

still_one

(92,108 posts)
8. Since you asked, and in no particular order, Harris, Biden, Castro, Booker..... Oh wait, I like all
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:19 AM
Jan 2019

the prospective Democratic nominees except two


 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. I like Harris and Warren.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jan 2019

Harris is currently at the top of my list. Warren is under consideration as well... about middle of the pack. We'll see how she does on the stump.

Gillibrand is not out of consideration, but she's near the bottom of the list.

Gabbard? Nope. Nopey nope nope. I've not been a fan... Her homophobic comments were bad, but she apologized for them. But then those "both sides" bullshit arguments put the final nail in the coffin for me.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
12. All of them have "problems" that will be exploited during the primaries...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jan 2019

and even more during the general. I just hope whoever gets the nod survives without too many battle scars, or hurt voter feelings. We had enough of that last time.

Gillibrand's my senator, and I like her well enough, as do many others, but every time her name comes up around here, you can set your watch by how fast Al Franken is mentioned. Gun support and tobacco companies come up amongst those with longer memories.

Gabbard? Too confusing at this point. Buncha negatives, but I don't know what they really mean.

Harris and Warren? I could easily go with either of them, and would have tough time choosing in the primary. The rest of the crowd so far I don't think have what it takes. But, we'll see who shakes out soon enough.



Initech

(100,054 posts)
13. My top picks right now:
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jan 2019

1. Biden / Harris
2. Harris / Beto
3. Warren / Beto
4. Warren / Harris

I think any one of those could easily beat Chump.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
24. I like that.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

Biden would sure be an entertaining as hell debate against Trump. Assuming Trump is even in office.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
26. A Biden / Beto ticket would be the best as well.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jan 2019

I'd love to see them debate Trump and Pence, assuming they're still in office!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
58. That is my top choice.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 07:11 PM
Jan 2019

My second is Beto/Biden. Third Warren/Beto. Yeah yeah, more than likely not realistic but one can dream.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
35. Those all sound like great tickets
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jan 2019

I would throw Klobuchar in there as well - Klobuchar/Beto maybe?

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
44. I'd never heard of Bill Clinton
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jan 2019

before he ran for president. I vaguely remembered Obama from the 2004 Democratic convention, but knew nothing about him. I also didn't know anything about John Kerry or I forgot what I knew about him during his anti Vietnam War days. Going back even farther, Michael Dukakis or that peanut farmer from Georgia!

Looking back, Democrats often don't go with "household names" for their presidential nominees. I don't know why. Maybe because they have less baggage?

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
39. Cory Booker with Klobuchar
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think Beto adds enough balance to the ticket. I think Booker has a better chance to appeal to the urban centers of the firewall states.

Andrew Gillum assuming things work out with the ongoing investigation would also be a possibility. Maybe two years of DeSantis will convince Florida voters they made a mistake.




PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
45. Booker or Gillum
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jan 2019

would also be good choices. I'm just not sure if Beto is ready yet, but then again, I felt that way about Obama and obviously I was wrong.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
14. I'm excited as well. I think things are lining up great. My current list.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

My list has recently changed but not at the top. Only announced candidates.

1) Gillibrand/Warren/Harris
4) Castro
5) Andrew Yang
6) Gabbard
7) Delaney
100) Ojeda

I would like to see one or two of these people enter. Sherrod Brown, Booker, Kerry, Holder, Klobuchar, Stacey Abrams.

Additionally, I want to see an executives enter.

Big field.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. Mine are Harris, Warren and Klobuchar.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Gabbard and Gillibrand won't win in the primaries.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
42. Gillibrand will, but won't get far
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jan 2019

She'll get money, but not the votes. (I hope)

Gabbard is flakey. She won't attract donors.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
22. I think Harris has the star power.*
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

I can't stand Warren's demagoguery.

But they're all fine choices.

*That is, she can become a star, she can fill stadiums if they approach it correctly.

I for one will be sitting the primaries out.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
27. Gillibrand lost me when she went after Al Franken
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

I would vote for her if she was the Dem nominee, but I can't forget her for Al.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. How many is too many strong candidates?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

You alleged that there are too many strong candidates in the field previously this morning, and seem to be all over the place in the here and now.

Evolution of thought in two merely hours? Or simply another rationalization to justify the discrepancy?

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
30. Sorry, can't forgive her for that
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

Al voted the correct way in his senate votes too. Like I said, if she is the nominee, I will vote for her. But I won't support her before she is the nominee

Bucky

(53,984 posts)
32. Ha.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jan 2019

Thank you. She is useful to have around though, if only to remind us of Gloria Steinem's test: "Women won't have achieved full equality until there are incompetent and corrupt women in positions of power."

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
37. And then compare it to her voting record
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:07 PM
Jan 2019

in the House. I don't see her as a solid candidate. She's been all over the map in her career. I found her a little wishy-washy before Al Franken, but now I just don't trust her.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
46. I hate to be cynical,
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jan 2019

but I thinks that is because she has been running for president for quite awhile now. Meanwhile, maybe she is who she portrays herself to be, but still she is a very divisive candidate within the Democratic party. I don't think that will change and we don't need to relive the 2016 primary with Democrats eating their own.

Besides we have so many extraordinary choices this time, she just isn't toward the top of the list I'm afraid.

madville

(7,408 posts)
47. This is going to be a mess but entertaining
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:03 PM
Jan 2019

with such a large field. We potentially could see a few front runners winning states with 20% of the vote. That's one reason I'm behind Biden jumping in, he can easily win with 30% in every state and potentially sweep the first primaries.

I worry about the convention though, the person with the most delegates won't automatically be the nominee if two or three other candidates combine their forces with some kind of deal. That's what I think could be the real mess.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
49. Gillibrand? No Way! She'll never get it. The Franken problem kills it for her. Gabbard? Nope.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:16 PM
Jan 2019

Warren #1 and Harris #2 in that list.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
62. I fault them all, but Gillibrand led the way. The others were bandwagoners. It was all bullshit.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
51. No Gabbard, no Gillibrand.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 07:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes Klobuchar.

edited to spell her name correctly.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
57. Don't have any inside knowledge
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jan 2019

but her responses to inquiries as to her intent are very indicative of yes.

She's extremely careful and considering her options.

jcgoldie

(11,623 posts)
60. Someone posted on here some papers left in a Minneapolis diner...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jan 2019

With templates for her campaign logo. Seems like a strong indication.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
56. I wouldn't be happy about Gillibrand or Gabbard.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

It's early, though. We'll probably end up with a list of 20 or more to choose from. My criteria still boils down to who I think can beat Trump. It might end up being Joe Biden or someone who hasn't even hit the radar screen yet.

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