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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:26 PM Jan 2019

How long could you last working at a job for which you are not being paid?



You are not getting paid, but you still have to show up for work and you have to pay rent or mortgage, car payments, fuel, health insurance, tuition, utilities, child care etc.
7 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
0 days - 1 week
4 (57%)
1 week - 2 weeks
0 (0%)
2 weeks - 3 weeks
0 (0%)
3 weeks - 1 month
0 (0%)
1 month - 2 months
0 (0%)
2 months - 3 months
1 (14%)
3 months - 6 months
0 (0%)
6 months - 1 year
0 (0%)
As long as I had to
2 (29%)
OTHER
0 (0%)
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How long could you last working at a job for which you are not being paid? (Original Post) milestogo Jan 2019 OP
I would never have a job that I wouldn't be paid, govt workers/contractors understand this is a risk beachbum bob Jan 2019 #1
What? Why would a government worker have to assume our enemy would install Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #3
Do you think the private sector is a better bet? EarnestPutz Jan 2019 #4
My wife had a state job and her position was deemed to such that if a beachbum bob Jan 2019 #12
What specifically leads you to that conclusion? LanternWaste Jan 2019 #11
What? RobinA Jan 2019 #19
Sheesh! rownesheck Jan 2019 #2
Keep in mind they will eventually get paid... just not now. Joe941 Jan 2019 #6
Standard financial planner advice is to have 3-6 months of expenses in emergency funds... Joe941 Jan 2019 #5
If I was guaranteed the back pay and still had health benefits, I am lucky I could last a few months Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #7
Fuck free labor. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #8
Close to retirement zipplewrath Jan 2019 #9
Yes and no... brooklynite Jan 2019 #14
OPM says yes zipplewrath Jan 2019 #15
OK, but how would you file your retirement papers? brooklynite Jan 2019 #16
Yeah, they don't discuss that zipplewrath Jan 2019 #22
I answered but this whole "work without pay" is bullshit. Agschmid Jan 2019 #10
Financially speaking, I don't need the money... brooklynite Jan 2019 #13
The ones feeling the pain the most shanti Jan 2019 #17
6 months to a year madville Jan 2019 #18
My Problem RobinA Jan 2019 #20
I haven't been paid since Sept 2017. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #21
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. I would never have a job that I wouldn't be paid, govt workers/contractors understand this is a risk
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jan 2019

when they take the job

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. What? Why would a government worker have to assume our enemy would install
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:34 PM
Jan 2019

a nazi in the WH and purposely not pay them so he and his boss putin could destroy us?

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
4. Do you think the private sector is a better bet?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

I'm guessing that private companies stiff more workers for
more money year in and year out than government agencies.
When people seek and obtain a civil service job they are looking
for job security and a consistent source of income.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. My wife had a state job and her position was deemed to such that if a
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jan 2019

the state was in a shutdown mode she would be required to work without a pay. She knew that when she took the job. They all know that is possible. No surprises here.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. What specifically leads you to that conclusion?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:47 PM
Jan 2019

Objective evidence to support it (thus presuming the necessary corollary: private workers assume no risk), or simply an allegation?

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
19. What?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jan 2019

I’m a state worker and I never thought this was even an issue. In fact, we worked for a week without getting paid a couple years ago. Our credit union offered an $1000 a week loan interest free if paid back within a month of getting paid. I took it to conserve cash. It wouldn’t have cut it if I had kids and a mortgage, but my actual pay wouldn’t have made it under those circumstances either.

I might add that I am an essential employee and I work when government is shut down, but not getting paid was never part of the deal. It’s bad enough when we don’t get a differential for being at work on a workday when everybody else is off for a snowstorm.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
2. Sheesh!
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jan 2019

I hate working at a job i get PAID to do! I would sing some Johnny Paycheck as i walk out the door if they weren't paying me!

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
6. Keep in mind they will eventually get paid... just not now.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jan 2019

It still sucks but at least you aren't working for nothing.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
5. Standard financial planner advice is to have 3-6 months of expenses in emergency funds...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

If you are the sole bread winner you might want to be closer to the 6 month end. If you are a 2 income family with more stable jobs then maybe closer to the 3 month is appropriate.

That being said I answered only 2 months. So I know I'm short of recommendations. The shutdown is causing me to reevaluate and try to increase to the minimum of 3 months. No one knows when you may lose your job. It is scary.

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
7. If I was guaranteed the back pay and still had health benefits, I am lucky I could last a few months
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

But I am older with savings and support, little current debt, and currently have no family I need to provide for.

With no prior knowledge, nor planning, I cannot imagine working without pay while trying to support a family and current expenses/debt (mortgage/rent, utilities, transportation costs, food, etc.).

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
8. Fuck free labor.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

Been unemployed before, would be unemployed again before I work for free.

Also, are you asking how long we could go without being paid, or how long we'd tolerate working for free? I assumed the latter and voted <1 week, but ... Rereading the OP, I'm not sure.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. Close to retirement
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jan 2019

So for me it'd just be "early" retirement. In my 40's I could have lasted at least 6 months, maybe more if I made major changes like apartments, car, and got some part time/casual work. In my 20's It would have been measured in weeks because I hadn't built up much in the way of savings.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
22. Yeah, they don't discuss that
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jan 2019

5 of the 12 spending bills have been passed. Not sure if any one of those provides the ability to process retirement applications.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. I answered but this whole "work without pay" is bullshit.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jan 2019

I would quit or immediately stop working after 1 missed paycheck, even if it cost me the job.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
13. Financially speaking, I don't need the money...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jan 2019

Philosophically, I won't work indefinitely for an employer who didn't see fit to pay me what I'm worth.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
17. The ones feeling the pain the most
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jan 2019

are probably families with very young children, the ones who pay for child care, especially single parents. If you can't pay the sitter, you can't go to work, case closed. It all goes downhill from there. I know of two families that work for the feds: one at the IRS, and the other DOD. The latter is not furloughed, the former is. Both have young children.

madville

(7,408 posts)
18. 6 months to a year
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jan 2019

but I'm debt free and have a paid off house in a low cost of living area, monthly expenses are very low.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
21. I haven't been paid since Sept 2017.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jan 2019

Was laid off due to office politics on a project that I wasn't even working on. Haven't found any comparable jobs that want a mid 50's database developer.

I have my house paid off and I learned in 2000 that a cash cushion was vital. Not out of funds yet and could sell off the company stock I acquired without touching my retirement funds. But I'd rather find a job, even if it pays less than what I was making.

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