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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:57 PM Jan 2019

Trump preparing two State of the Union speeches for different audiences: Sources


By KATHERINE FAULDERS, JONATHAN KARL JOHN SANTUCCI Jan 22, 2019, 12:29 PM ET

President Donald Trump is preparing for two different State of the Union speeches – one a more traditional address delivered to Congress in the House chamber or some other location in D.C., the other prepared for a political rally at a location outside of Washington, D.C. that has yet to be determined, according to multiple sources familiar with the planning.

Sources told ABC News that the president was previously planning two separate versions of the State of the Union – one version if the government was still shut down and another if the government was open.

However, now the planning has evolved, assuming the government shutdown could drag on past next Tuesday – the expected delivery date of the address. If the president decides to deliver a speech in rally form, it would mark the first rally style event the president has attended since the partial shutdown began.

As part of the ongoing political tit-for-tat between Trump and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., Republicans are encouraging Trump to force Pelosi to officially disinvite him, by suggesting the president announce he still intends to deliver the State of the Union from the House chamber, according to Republican sources involved in the discussions.

A senior administration official confirmed to ABC News that the White House has sent an email to the House Sergeant at Arms requesting a walkthrough of the chamber to prep for the State of the Union address. The White House is still moving forward as planned on the address as they wait to hear whether Pelosi is officially rescinding her invitation.

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Trump preparing two State of the Union speeches for different audiences: Sources (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
OMG montanacowboy Jan 2019 #1
Two different sets of lies? That's ambitious! marble falls Jan 2019 #2
I'm sure he'd rather give the Nuremberg speech Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #3
I wonder who will be attending the Rally.... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #4
Oh he would go to some red state or red district book_worm Jan 2019 #9
It's all been one big rally to him NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #5
anyone who is loyal to him bdamomma Jan 2019 #8
There is no contract between trump and Pelosi for SOTU Gothmog Jan 2019 #6
Of course he will be bdamomma Jan 2019 #7
To call the rally speech a SOTU is insane. nolabear Jan 2019 #10
They mean Stephen Miller is. lilactime Jan 2019 #11
afaik Pelosi hasn't officially invited him so there is no need to rescind an invitation. shanny Jan 2019 #12
SOTU cannot be given at a rally Gothmog Jan 2019 #13

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
4. I wonder who will be attending the Rally....
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jan 2019

Surely not those whose jobs with the Federal Government involves defending the Nation, issuing out checks for Farmers, the poor, Tax Refunds, Airport security, air traffic controllers, business owners facing financial times because of the shutdown, etc.

Those stupid enough to wear the red hats, hoot and holler for the shutdown to continue, those who are affected by the shutdown but do not know it yet. People stupid enough to be conned that THEY are paying for the wall, but not Mexico.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
9. Oh he would go to some red state or red district
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jan 2019

so he could get a bunch of his yahoo inbred supporters together to cheer him on.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
5. It's all been one big rally to him
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jan 2019

He doesn't even pretend to be president for all American people; he talks only to his base. Look at his tweets if you don't believe me.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
8. anyone who is loyal to him
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jan 2019

these are the cult members who he pays attention too. But with shutdown taking place he is losing his base but not fast enough.

nolabear

(41,938 posts)
10. To call the rally speech a SOTU is insane.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

It’s not one by any definition. It’s just a rally speech and should be called that.

Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
13. SOTU cannot be given at a rally
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:54 PM
Jan 2019

The SOTU is a speech to congress and cannot be given at a rally https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-political-rally-second-state-of-the-union

Technically, though, State of the Union speeches are delivered to Congress, not crowds at political rallies.

Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution states that the President “shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.”

Following the first State of the Union addresses delivered in-person to Congress by George Washington and John Adams, presidents delivered these updates in written form for more than 100 years, until 1913 when Woodrow Wilson revived the practice of delivering them in-person.

But the addresses have never been — and seemingly cannot be, constitutionally — delivered in the form of a political rally.
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