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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:13 PM Jan 2019

Savannah Guthrie's interviewing Nick Sandmann on the Today Show





Sitting down with Nicholas Sandmann - the student at the center of the protest controversy at the Lincoln Memorial. Airs tomorrow on @TODAYshow

The media's turning this smirking kid into an icon or something.
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Savannah Guthrie's interviewing Nick Sandmann on the Today Show (Original Post) octoberlib Jan 2019 OP
Oh gooooooood! Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #1
She's getting hell on Twitter for trying to whitewash what happened. octoberlib Jan 2019 #3
Just giving this kid a platform before Mr Phillips Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #6
I'm sure the PR Firm has coached him up underpants Jan 2019 #12
You are not mistaken. nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #24
His mom is a big shot at a financial firm irisblue Jan 2019 #29
That makes sense Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #32
Fidelity Investment, so a lot of $ irisblue Jan 2019 #33
She's an idiot for agreeing to do this HopeAgain Jan 2019 #2
Yep. octoberlib Jan 2019 #4
Yeah, that sounds about white. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #5
+1 million. geardaddy Jan 2019 #11
Hopefully someone will interview one of the Black Israelites oberliner Jan 2019 #14
Do you think the Covington kids did anything wrong? BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #17
Obviously she feels the Covington kids in the MAGA hats are the true John Fante Jan 2019 #35
It's becoming quite obvious. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #37
.. Cha Jan 2019 #50
There are culturally conservative elements of the white left radius777 Jan 2019 #52
They seem perfectly fine with social justice when it brings down John Fante Jan 2019 #57
they're alt-left radius777 Jan 2019 #58
"And they shall wear the mark of the beast.." Cha Jan 2019 #49
No one has been, by definition, held accountable. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #19
That would be a crazy interview. Somebody should, definitely. octoberlib Jan 2019 #20
Why? They're not running around insisting on telling their "side of the story" EffieBlack Jan 2019 #25
+1 octoberlib Jan 2019 #31
Oh for fucks sake ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #27
No. He just wants to talk about them to divert attention from EffieBlack Jan 2019 #38
The Cov/Catholic pukes harrassed MontanaMama Jan 2019 #51
This is the reason why we need to diversify our newsrooms. SaschaHM Jan 2019 #7
I thank you for telling the simple truth. Anon-C Jan 2019 #10
I will not watch. Anon-C Jan 2019 #8
Disgusting. Squinch Jan 2019 #9
Someone should interview one of the Black Israelites oberliner Jan 2019 #13
You're really into them today. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #15
No, somebody shouldn't. ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #30
oberliner, why are you so invested in 'interviewing' Black Israelites? irisblue Jan 2019 #34
Because the poster believes the boys are innocent victims. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #36
You won't get an answer. John Fante Jan 2019 #55
Really? Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #40
After watching their two treestar Jan 2019 #53
unfuckingbelievable bdtrppr6 Jan 2019 #16
I don't have a problem with this. Different Drummer Jan 2019 #18
Thanks for the warning. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #21
I saw all I needed to know about him already. ooky Jan 2019 #22
aww what a nice little boy IcyPeas Jan 2019 #23
The PR firm his family hired is giving that familys' their money worth. irisblue Jan 2019 #26
They sure are tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #44
How we got Trump in one stupid news story. Corgigal Jan 2019 #28
Shameful... Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #39
I can't believe they are turning this little shithead into a celebrity. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #41
That it is, smirky.. :( Cha Jan 2019 #43
You look stupid, Guthrie.. Smirkboy.. Cha Jan 2019 #42
There's this local dog (well, actually part wolf.....) akraven Jan 2019 #45
Just ask this 1 question please D_Master81 Jan 2019 #46
I predicted this. Tipperary Jan 2019 #47
Is it possible to lose all respect for an anchor, a show, and a network with one tweet? Cha Jan 2019 #48
Smirky little entitled white boy. Vinca Jan 2019 #54
Well that was racist. Bonx Jan 2019 #56
Ha! Like this would have been up for discussion if the offender was a black kid. Vinca Jan 2019 #60
Charming. Bonx Jan 2019 #62
i wonder if he is wearing his MAGA hat? marchellojones Jan 2019 #59
His smug, shit-eating grin will be wiped clean from his face, John Fante Jan 2019 #61

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. Oh gooooooood!
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:18 PM
Jan 2019

What about doing an interview with Mr Phillips. Who's funding this media damage control crap for this kid??

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
3. She's getting hell on Twitter for trying to whitewash what happened.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jan 2019

I predict the media's gonna turn this shitbag into a martyr and won't ask him any hard questions. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
32. That makes sense
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jan 2019

The reeks of something a paid "fixer" would arrange. "Oh we need to get you out in front of the media and show what a 'good wholesome kid you are'

irisblue

(32,968 posts)
33. Fidelity Investment, so a lot of $
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

source--https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/nicholas-sandmann-covington-catholic

snip..."Julie Weis Sandmann has been the vice president of Relationship Management at Fidelity Investments since 2015 and began her career with Fidelity in 1999 but spent several years in between as a client manager at Paycor."





HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
2. She's an idiot for agreeing to do this
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jan 2019

Lose - lose if I ever saw one. Ask tough questions and she will be attacked for being rough on a high school kid. Toss him softballs and she will be seen as supporting privileged white kids.

Just another ratings grab by an inane morning show.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Hopefully someone will interview one of the Black Israelites
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

They seem to have not been held accountable at all for their behavior.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
52. There are culturally conservative elements of the white left
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

that are sympathetic to the populist-right/Trumpers, who see social justice as a distraction to class issues, and hence try hard to downplay "divisive" incidents like this.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
57. They seem perfectly fine with social justice when it brings down
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:40 PM
Jan 2019

a Democratic senator...like Al Franken. Perhaps they aren't left-leaning at all?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
58. they're alt-left
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:50 PM
Jan 2019

similar to the alt-right, in that they're culturally conservative and/or sympathetic to whites when it comes to social and cultural issues - while also populist/left leaning on economic issues.

They tend to mythologize the white working class, the American Heartland, etc.

Basically, the PoC/urban working class, that does all the shitwork in this world, is invisible to them and/or an obstacle in creating their rural Heartland fantasy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. No one has been, by definition, held accountable.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jan 2019

Hopefully, people will realize the difference between the curiosity (statistical aberration) and the norm (statistical standard), and stop pretending they hold the same amount of weight.

But like you, I'm merely hoping... and I don't see that actually happening if the consistency of that logical flaw maintains itself as it is.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
25. Why? They're not running around insisting on telling their "side of the story"
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jan 2019

And they don't have a bunch of misguided enablers advocating their behalf.

Or perhaps they don't feel the need to go on television try to blame their bad behavior on somebody else.

But your obsession with enabling l these obnoxious little MAGA jerks' racist behavior all over DU is noted - yet not surprising ...

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
38. No. He just wants to talk about them to divert attention from
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

the people who actually engaged in the behavior we're discussing.

"It's the black guys' fault" has worked for centuries - why stop now?

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
7. This is the reason why we need to diversify our newsrooms.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

It's the reason why Paul Ryan was mythologized as a budget genius. It's the reason why "racial incident" can still be used to describe things right up to putting a noose around a black man's neck. It's the reason why every MSM source was quick to change their opinion as soon as a white man's account of the situation hit the rounds.


White people and white politicians, who are mostly republicans, will always be given the benefit of the doubt by white (mostly male) newsrooms because they often lack the insight, knowledge, or skepticism to challenge someone that looks like their friend, husband, etc. Even on MSNBC, a Chuck Todd interview with a Republican Senator looks like two bros going out for a beer. Thankfully, mostly everyone else (other than Matthews) on that network approaches these issues with skepticism.

irisblue

(32,968 posts)
34. oberliner, why are you so invested in 'interviewing' Black Israelites?
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jan 2019

If you've answered this before on DU, I haven't seen it. Thanks

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
36. Because the poster believes the boys are innocent victims.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:23 PM
Jan 2019

Surely you know real life RWers. What are they saying about the incident? I think you’d find they align closely with that particular poster’s views on this incident.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
55. You won't get an answer.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Seems llke his or her goal is to make it seem like DUers somehow condone the rhetoric of the BIs. That, and it's a deflection from the Kovington Katholic Kids.

Either way, they're pushing right-wing propoganda on a website for democratic voters, and it fucking sucks.

Different Drummer

(7,613 posts)
18. I don't have a problem with this.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

When I watch a show on weekday mornings, I want it to be about news. The Today Show is mostly entertainment, so I haven't seen it in years. I'm not going to deviate from that just to see the Sandmann interview.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
22. I saw all I needed to know about him already.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jan 2019

The same as anyone I see sporting a MAGAt hat. I have no interest in M$M normalizing his racism and selling advertising in the process. Fuck Savannah Guthrie, Nicholas Sandmann, NBC, and Covington Catholic. I know what every damn one of them are.

IcyPeas

(21,859 posts)
23. aww what a nice little boy
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jan 2019

he will be coached to come across as a nice little boy who helps old ladies across the street, and goes to church twice on Sundays, and cleans his room when his mommy tells him to, and he takes out the garbage, and can't wait to go to college.

He will not be asked any hard questions.

fantastic PR firm he's got.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
44. They sure are
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jan 2019

All the gymnastics the media is doing to " exonerate" these young men. Astounding! I guess there is a senate seat or justice seat planned for this young man's future.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. I can't believe they are turning this little shithead into a celebrity.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jan 2019

It's like the effing Twilight Zone.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
47. I predicted this.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jan 2019

Though I thought it would be Fox.

He is being completely vindicated. Free trip to NYC and now a celebrity.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
60. Ha! Like this would have been up for discussion if the offender was a black kid.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jan 2019

Smirky is probably much like Kavanaugh was as a youth, ensconced in his private school and allowed - maybe encouraged - to bully those who are not as fortunate. There are people in this society who are allowed to harass, to be obnoxious, to sometimes commit criminal acts and get pats on the hand. They usually aren't black kids. They're usually people like Smirky and Donald Trump.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
61. His smug, shit-eating grin will be wiped clean from his face,
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 05:00 AM
Jan 2019

that's for sure. Andrew Lack will see to it.

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