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You forgot the "already".

The fact that Idiot Face thought he could just call the SOA and bully his way into the House chamber shows his character - or lack thereof. Lordy, get this man out of Our House!

The topic and the name, "Moscow Mitch". Nice meme!

That was also most excellent

Also, 'most' excellent.

And their job descriptions didn't include "proctologist".

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expect Trump's own head to be up there.

In this case, it’s just damn frustrating- AND disgusting. I hope Moscow Mitch likes the taste since he’s evidently willing to eat boatloads of it.

Moscow Mitch. A mere 2-3 degrees separated from Our Friend Vlad.


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I learn so much out here on DU. I feel like I don’t reciprocate. I guess if anyone has any questions about playwriting or Shakespeare- I’m your official DU go-to. Lol!

Welcome to jumping into the fray! We all learn a lot here on DU, this is true.

Say, there are a lot of subgroups here. Have you looked into the writers group for example? See them on the left here.

And no, but I'll click over to the writer's group. Might give me some reprieve from the hell that is Trumpistan.

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The SOTU is a speech to congress and cannot be given at a rally https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-political-rally-second-state-of-the-union

way of what he wants.

then read it at a political rally?

I suspect he could video tape a rally, post it on Twitter and just include it in a tweet to Congress as the "official" SOTU. Hell, he could just shout a line or two from under the helicopter blades on the South Lawn and call it the SOTU. The quote from the Constitution is:

someone to read it to us.

Someone like Gilford Gottfried.

Or maybe Alec Baldwin, in full character.

That's pretty much the only way I'd like to hear it.

The media including Fox has stopped covering trump's rallys. This rally would not be the SOTU and so the media should refuse to cover it

the media has a much different meaning than it used to. He could put it on YouTube and all his base could watch it. It's not like a handful of network executives have the power to keep the people who want to from seeing it.

It has been delivered in writing as often as it has been spoken in the Hall of the House. If the networks want to cover it, he can deliver in writing and then give the speech at the time and place of his choice.

He could tweet the information, for what that's worth.

He could give a speech to a rally and call it the "state of the union" but it will not be and the media should not entertain it as such.

The SOTU has to be given to Congress and not to a mob of MAGAt idiots.

The key is that the media needs to refuse to cover this rally just as the medial has stopped covering trump's other rallys

suppose a POTUS failed to do it? It depends on the honor of the POTUS to do this duty. Now we have one with no honor.

Maybe by association some of their learnedness will rub off on me. Thanks!

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Even if they tried to pull some bullshit with the Senate Sergeant of Arms and try to commandeer the South Wing without Pelosi's express consent, it will cause a metric shitstorm. I mean a Supreme Court level shitstorm.

The North Wing, where the Senate is, doesn't have enough room to accommodate all the Senators and Congresspeople.

The bicameral legislature is enshrined in the core of the constitution, it is sacrosanct. What goes on in the House is House business.

(Only reason I pose this unlikely scenario is that the Senate Sergeant of Arms is a Moscow Mitch appointee, and does himself have significant power over the security of the Capitol Building, and I could see Trump pushing something insane like this.)

He would be on her turf and there is no specific script required by the Constitution. She and Mitch could take turns asking him about the SOTU.

He coming prepared to describe the SOTU, so why wouldn't he be able to handle some Q&A?

Would be riveting don't you think?

Then she sent a letter advising him that if he insists on doing a SOTU on 1/29, he can submit it in writing. Otherwise, an oral SOTU date will have to be negotiated once the gov't is re-opened.

The Senate Sergeant at Arms does not fall under the Speaker of the House. The House Sergeant at Arms is an elected Officer of the House, the Senate Sergeant at Arms is an elected Officer of the Senate and the Architect of the Capitol is appointed by the President in consultation with the House and Senate leadership. The Speaker does not have the authority to close the Capitol unilaterally. She can close the House Chamber though as she does control the Floor of the House and can close that wherever she wants. Closing the entire Side of the Capitol is a whole different issue as each individual Member office sets its own hours and rules of operation. We would not be happy if a Republican Speaker started denying Democratic Members of Congress access to their office.

stronger than sharpest sword or biggest gun.

Except that The Speaker has legal authority to preside over joint sessions and is in charge of the Sergeant At Arms. The Majority Leader of the Senate has no such legal authority.

The Speaker does not have authority over the SSAA

The Speaker can not Close the Capitol on her say so

They are contradictions to your statement.

in the House chamber, where she feels security many not be adequate at the time?

And, if so, how could that be enforced if people started showing up uninvited for such an event?

Security or otherwise. The Speaker can close the Chamber when not in session, when in session, she can move to adjourn and then close the Floor. Whenever she feels for any reason she feels. It gets rather sticky when Members are already on the Floor though. Think the Democrats Gun Control sit in on the Floor of the House when there was a Republican Speaker. The Speaker can turn off the lights and the Cameras which are run by the CAO of the House (hence the Democrats using twitter and Periscope) but physically removing Members of the House from the Floor can cause a host of problems. There is an Order and Decorum issue that could come in play if those occupying the Floor cross some thresholds that the Speaker finds offensive.. The House Sergeant at Arms is in charge of enforcing Order and Decorum.

I'm never too old to learn!......

If he lifts the shutdown he can have his SOTU in the House.

This has made my day . Now, if only someone can tell me how we can override Moscow Mitch on the shutdown...

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that is good information and something we all need to know.

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Paul Ryan dug his head so far in the sand - by not stepping in on Nunes and Goodlatte and demanding that the House at least pretend to oversee the Executive branch - that Trump has no idea what powers the Speaker truly has.

Had he played his cards a little differently (and made Trump squirm once or twice), this Admin might be in a better position to deal with Nancy.

There is no requirement that it be televised.

I completely support Pelosi here. However, I am seriously concerned about this is akin to rearranging chairs on the deck as the Titanic steamrolls towards an ice burg. About two weeks ago I had a sudden insight into what is going on with Trump and the shutdown that truly disturbed me. I ran it by several friends who thought, given Trump's mendacity, agreed that it is very likely correct. Essentially I don't think he plans to reopen the government (at least anytime soon). I think he intends to generate a real crisis. The issue is the multiplier effect with the government shutdown when it comes to problems that arise from 800,000+ individuals not receiving pay, services not being provided, government contractors, etc. What about the unintended, unexpected consequences from a prolonged shutdown...for three months, six months, a year....longer? Not only does this offer Tea Party types their ideological manna of hurting those "lazy government workers" and government in general, it creates a genuine crisis that can exploited by Trump. I hope this is wrong--but everything I have read since having this somewhat terrifying insight only confirms my first intuition. I've read articles on AlterNet about the severe long term impacts of a shutdown, and just yesterday, according to MSNBC, the FBI issued a 70+ page report detailing how it is severely impacting their investigations, etc.. The shutdown also works to put the Dems in a really difficult situation. We can't give in to Trump or we set the precedent of him shutting down the government every time he doesn't get his way (as Pelosi has correctly pointed out) and, moreover, if the Dems caved on this (out of concerned of vast suffering) I fear it would splinter and derail our political momentum. I fear this is an endgame authoritarian move with vast and unimaginable consequences. I hope I am wrong.


In the end, it unfortunately comes down to Republican senators and moscow mitch. I only hope that Trump's poll numbers tank enough that he loses the senate, but I am not hopeful since it appears the Republican's are constituted by sociopaths--especially Mitch who is despicable and venal human being. I could also be wrong and Trump blinks before letting the nation go over the cliff, but I am not hopeful. If my intuition is correct, I am not certain what tactical options are. I am concerned we are in an autoimmune crisis where the cure to Trump is as dangerous as the disease...I put it out the community of readers (of which I have been for a long time and am now a new member) to help us think tactically to respond to such an existential crisis. We can only overcome this evil together.