People keep making up this nonsense. But there was no plan.

There was even confirming reporting that the White House had no idea what would be affected because shortly before it happened everyone thought the government would stay open.

There's no plan.

No, the goal all along was to shut down the government and sell it off to privatization.

He understands, probably correctly, that if his troglodyte base thinks he has turned on His Orangeness, he will be primaried and likely lose. This calculus gets nothing but worse for him as the damage unfolds, and I expect him to eventually cave -- probably shortly before announcing his retirement instead of running for re-election. The problem with the idea of it being a conspiracy to sell functions off is that they weren't ready; if this really was planned Trump pulled the trigger way too soon, and the likely outcome is that once the lockout is broken measures will be put in place to make it much harder to try again.

The GOP had two years to pass their wall funding and only made it an issue right before handing over control of the House. I believe this was quite intentional as a lot of what the Tea Party people are beginning to realize their long time dream of shrinking down the government and drowning it in a bathtub! Trump is their useful idiot and all the whining about building a wall on the southern boarder a smoke screen to mask their real intentions. It did not escape my notice of all the Republicans that resigned or didn't run for re-election right before this fiasco as they most likely wished not to be associated with it. I have been wondering for a couple weeks now that if the bluff was called and Trump was granted the $5.7B if the government would still be shut down. Meanwhile, the investigations that the House would instigate into the criminal activities of these crooks can't really get started. The FBI is being whittled down as well as the Federal courts.

...the idea that any of this was planned falls apart when you start looking at the details. If the idea was to sell stuff off, they've made no preparations to do that. All the signs are that nobody was really ready for the consequences; Trump didn't understand exactly what would happen, and McConnell isn't really positioned to benefit in any visible way from it. There are no corporate saviors positioned to swoop in and save the day by buying up the shut-down functions. It's just a shit sandwich, which the Republicans are increasingly accurately being blamed for. Yes, it is a wet dream of certain individuals (Rand Paul, I'm lookin' at you) but it's not really what the party overall wanted at this moment in time and they don't have anything like a plan for either dealing with it or turning it to their advantage.

What inside info do you have?

into a power play to make the House irrelevant.

the Senate irrelevant too?

majority.

Lyin' Ryan and the then-majority House just accidently passed a bill that didn't match the unanimous bill that came from the Senate, so just accidently shut down the parts of the government that GOPers have wanted to kill since FDR.

Yup. No plan. Just a series of coincidental, convenient accidents.

Coincidences take a lot of planning.

He's a traitor.

It's by the Putin-Trump Alliance

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In order to make America great again, we must first destroy it. The beauty of this plan is that most people don't realize this." If that's true, they've put their plan into action, and we're watching it unfold AS PLANNED.

there but in Europe he's a Leninist, TEAR THE GOVERNMENT DOWN is his belief.

Miller is no better either, I want him to be pulled into Mueller's web.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)



https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-fever-dream-american-gulag-551472

I'm surprised corporate America hasn't raised a little more hell interrupting their coup.

The M$M isn’t supporting the right wing faschists for clicks. This coup is a joint effort by Russian oligarchs and American oligarchs.
When are we going to learn that the M$M is complicit.

The ones I have met are scared when you breathe on them hard.

Sure will be fun to see what happens next.

Let's take them down.

Permanently.

I am sick of republicans and their ilk.

This has been planned and executed by the libertarians. We have the Koch brothers and the whole American Oligarchs Club to thank for this. They've been scheming for years and finally made their move.

Little Rand Paul instigated all this before running off to Canada for socialist surgery?! No. The GOP, mainly McConnell is holding it all up. They waited until right before the House leadership was given over to the Democrats and then blew it all up.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mitchy-boy is too.

Nice of people to notice at a point where it very well might be too late.

How else to explain losing 40 plus seats, and control, in the House two months ago. Or losing the Presidency in 2008 and 2012?

Which I very seldom watch, reported the shutdown as "the Democrats shutdown."!!!



Bet other repub areas are doing the same.

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