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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:16 PM Jan 2019

Beto Sounds Lukewarm On 2020: 'I Don't Want To Raise Expectations'

Beto Sounds Lukewarm On 2020: ‘I Don’t Want To Raise Expectations’

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/beto-lukewarm-on-2020

By Kate Riga at Talking Points Memo

"SNIP....

(On running in 2018)
There’s an exhaustion after an effort like that, that I’m learning is hard to recover from,” he said. “You don’t snap back.”

O’Rourke has also been just considering the prospect of a run for far less time than most of the other Democrats in the field.

“I just am not there to do that,” he told Politico. “I just don’t want to raise expectations or commit people if I’m not committed and if I haven’t made that decision yet.”

“Have I satisfied my commitment to this country and our democracy? That’s the question that we’re trying to think through right now,” he added. “Is there something that I can contribute beyond what I have already done that the country needs right now. Do I need to be back in the arena?”

....SNIP"

He is so authentic. So relatable.

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Beto Sounds Lukewarm On 2020: 'I Don't Want To Raise Expectations' (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2019 OP
good for him. at this point im still open to him JI7 Jan 2019 #1
I think he should wait and see. He is young. If there is a lack of authenticity applegrove Jan 2019 #2
we have too many good candidates to have lack of authenticity JI7 Jan 2019 #6
Oh I agree. We have a great slate. applegrove Jan 2019 #7
Agree. His youth is on his side. ananda Jan 2019 #19
We already have many great options oberliner Jan 2019 #3
When in doubt, Beto--don't! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #4
I think he would make a fine VP candidate TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #5
I don't think picking him as vp is a good idea without seeing how he does JI7 Jan 2019 #8
Yes and no. ucrdem Jan 2019 #10
vp needs to be able to kick ass . we need to see if there is any weakness JI7 Jan 2019 #11
And since Trump pretty much threw out any kind of rule book TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #13
That might work. ucrdem Jan 2019 #14
too much arrogance. and trump won in a GOP primary. he needed Putin to prop him up JI7 Jan 2019 #16
Yeah, but Cruz chose Carly Fiorina TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #18
no, kasich would not have helped. the Republicans wanted a vile bigoted piece of shit JI7 Jan 2019 #20
That would rock. applegrove Jan 2019 #9
I'd like to see him run for the Senate seat against Cornyn in 2020 Zorro Jan 2019 #12
That would be grand. applegrove Jan 2019 #15
Cornyn will be harder to beat than Cruz TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #17
Word of advice Beto. If you don't have the "fire" to be president, to know and do what Autumn Jan 2019 #21
I read that as he's looking for a way out. Iggo Jan 2019 #22
Many politicians ruin their career by choosing the wrong cycle to run Awsi Dooger Jan 2019 #23
The late George H W Bush also was one term. applegrove Jan 2019 #24

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
2. I think he should wait and see. He is young. If there is a lack of authenticity
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jan 2019

in the nomination race people will call for him to run.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
6. we have too many good candidates to have lack of authenticity
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jan 2019

I think for Beto or will be looking at what are his chances of winning realistically.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
5. I think he would make a fine VP candidate
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jan 2019

with a more experienced candidate for POTUS. Warren/Beto, Brown/Beto, Klobuchar/Beto all sound like winning tickets to me.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Yes and no.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:32 PM
Jan 2019

If he runs in the primary he has to run against whoever wins. If he doesn't, there's no rivalry they have to get over, and he's also a fresh face and not an also-ran when he takes the stage at the convention. So not running in the primary might be a strategy for getting a VP slot.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
11. vp needs to be able to kick ass . we need to see if there is any weakness
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:34 PM
Jan 2019

sometimes weakness can be improved or lose effectiveness .

but he needs to run to see what it is.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
13. And since Trump pretty much threw out any kind of rule book
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe someone like Warren, for example, could choose a running mate BEFORE the primaries start, rather than waiting until the convention. That way, voters can get excited about the TEAM that's being presented. I know that's not how it's been done in the past. I don't care.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
16. too much arrogance. and trump won in a GOP primary. he needed Putin to prop him up
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:45 PM
Jan 2019

in the ge .

yeah. beto can do things differently but not announce vp before.

ted cruz tried that also.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
18. Yeah, but Cruz chose Carly Fiorina
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jan 2019

who brought absolutely nothing to the ticket. Had he been able to convince Kasich to be his VP, he might have kicked Trump's ass. Nevertheless, Trump got ahead too early in the game for Cruz to catch up.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
20. no, kasich would not have helped. the Republicans wanted a vile bigoted piece of shit
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:59 PM
Jan 2019

and why should Fiorina not help when they voted for fucking trump. Fiorina is a business person.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
17. Cornyn will be harder to beat than Cruz
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:48 PM
Jan 2019

Part of the reason Beto did as well as he did was because everyone knows Cruz is an asshole and no one, even Republicans, want to work with him in the Senate. 400K Republicans who voted for Governor Gregg Abbott chose Beto over Cruz.

Cornyn may be unimpressive, but he's not an asshole. Beto has actually worked on bills with Cornyn for increased funding for ports of entry. If Beto isn't going to participate in the 2020 race, I would prefer he run for Governor in 2022.

Autumn

(45,042 posts)
21. Word of advice Beto. If you don't have the "fire" to be president, to know and do what
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jan 2019

every Dem should know the country needs right now? Don't do it.

Iggo

(47,547 posts)
22. I read that as he's looking for a way out.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:20 PM
Jan 2019

If he thinks he's ready for it, then go for it.

But if he don't, then don't.

No dishonor in that.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
23. Many politicians ruin their career by choosing the wrong cycle to run
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jan 2019

Mitt Romney, for example, picked the two absolute worst cycles to pursue. He couldn't get it worse if he tried. In 2008 he decided to pursue a nomination after Bush 43 a Republican in his second term had been stuck at very low approval rating since Katrina in August 2005. Lotsa luck. Then in 2012 he found an even worse cycle...opposing an incumbent in Obama whose party had been in power only one term. Only Jimmy Carter has lost in that scenario in more than a century.

Likewise the Democrats who chose 2004 thought they were making a wise choice but it was actually a stupid choice. I never understand why so many candidates line up to face that incumbent whose party has been in power only one term. It is happening again this time. But at least 2020 opposes a Republican with a low sustained approval rating, unlike 2004 when Bush was once sky high after 9/11 and also the aspect of Americans traditionally unwilling to change leaders during war time, no matter the circumstances of that war.

Beto might not avoid 2020 due to understanding of a poor situational cycle against an incumbent. But sometimes the sharpest among us have instincts that catch lucky as well as good.

2024 sets up as a very, very good cycle for a Democrat to win the presidency, no matter what happens in 2020. It is actually a major gift if we retake the White House in 2020 because by all logical variables it should be a successful re-election for that incumbent. Fortunately they found someone who can create a loss all by himself.

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