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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:13 PM Jan 2019

'It was like a public execution': American retail workers face mass layoffs

You of course have a massive shutdown. US car companies deciding to no longer make cars. Brick and mortar stores like Sears closing. Real wages continue to remain flat. Yet, the Trump administration continues to publish record low unemployment rates.

How does that work? If companies are really having that much difficulty filling positions, how can it be so difficult for workers to simply lateral over to a new, high paying job if unemployment rates really are so low?

Next thing you know, we are going to be asked doubt Trump's crowd numbers or DHS reports of massive invasion from Mexico.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/it-was-like-a-public-execution-american-retail-workers-face-mass-layoffs/ar-BBSFbrS?li=BBnb7Kz

When Emmett Foster started working at the Amazon clothing plant in Norristown, Pennsylvania, last September as a contracted employee, he was under the impression that as long as he received his certifications for T-shirt printing and quality control, he would be kept on as a permanent employee after the holiday season.

“We knew the day was coming when they would make their cuts. The majority of the staff was seasonal. Those of us who had our certifications assumed just the seasonal people would get cut,” Foster said. He commuted from Philadelphia to Norristown four days a week for the job and had resigned another full-time position to take it.

But last week, Foster and dozens of other seasonal and contracted employees at the Amazon clothing plant were laid off along with thousands of other workers at retailers across the U.S. Retailers have just had their best holiday season in six years but for retail workers the post-holiday come down has been brutal.

“They made an announcement we would all take our breaks at the same time. No one thought anything of it,” said Foster. He explained a manager read off a list of names publicly to announce the mass layoffs. “It was a public execution.”
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'It was like a public execution': American retail workers face mass layoffs (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2019 OP
The numbers for everything associated with this administration are most likely a lie also. democratisphere Jan 2019 #1
Kind of like the old Soviet Union crop reports... Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2019 #2
I would never trust any report from the former USSR and currently the Russian Federation democratisphere Jan 2019 #4
Trump says: moondust Jan 2019 #3
In order to look good, you must also learn to lie good! democratisphere Jan 2019 #5
This won't stop until healthcare is detached from employment More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #6
It's not that they have a hard time filling full time positions. Initech Jan 2019 #7
Good chance of a recession coming... Xolodno Jan 2019 #8
I never thought of box sales before. Scruffy1 Jan 2019 #9
If you ask this econ guy.. Xolodno Jan 2019 #11
What happened to all those job creators? jalan48 Jan 2019 #10
I wonder what that Amazon clothing plant paid? DFW Jan 2019 #12

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. The numbers for everything associated with this administration are most likely a lie also.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:36 PM
Jan 2019

Eventually we will know the truth and I am certain it will extremely different than the BS they have been advertising and trying to sell to US.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
4. I would never trust any report from the former USSR and currently the Russian Federation
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jan 2019

or the USA. We must always consider the reliability and track record of the source.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
6. This won't stop until healthcare is detached from employment
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:21 AM
Jan 2019

So many people stay with jobs with terrible conditions just to keep their health care. When health care is completely portable, employers will have to raise conditions to keep their employees.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
7. It's not that they have a hard time filling full time positions.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:38 AM
Jan 2019

It's that they don't want to fill full time positions. Kind of like the way a jockey dangles a carrot in front of a horse. Full time salaried employees with benefits are bad for the bottom line, yo.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
8. Good chance of a recession coming...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:39 AM
Jan 2019

Aside from the economic indicators, the real world indicators are;

1. Sales of boxes goes down the shitter.

2. Workers Compensation claims start spiking.

3. Retail workers start getting laid off.

4. Going to the mall and finding the store you shopped at is shuttered.

5. Restaurants start disappearing.

Scruffy1

(3,253 posts)
9. I never thought of box sales before.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:00 AM
Jan 2019

Seems like a good leading indicator. Years ago I worked in contract manufacturing. We usually saw a big decrease in long term orders before the "news" hit. A head hunter once told me he bought stock in companies that were doing a lot of hiring and had alays done well on them.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
11. If you ask this econ guy..
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:32 AM
Jan 2019

...boxes are probably the most accurate. I have a couple of family members who work in that industry....they know when the shit hits the fan.

The next reliable indicator...Work Comp claims hit the moon. I work in the insurance industry...seen how this occurs. Make's sense though, if you are pretty sure your job is going to go bust...having a slip and fall makes real good sense.

The rest are a bit too late, But good on confirming the obvious. Many CEO's see the glass half full.....and ignore the direction the water rises and falls in the cup. Just assume its half/empty full.

jalan48

(13,842 posts)
10. What happened to all those job creators?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:05 AM
Jan 2019

That was the main reason for their receiving those massive tax cuts wasn’t it?

DFW

(54,302 posts)
12. I wonder what that Amazon clothing plant paid?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:18 AM
Jan 2019

The article said, "He commuted from Philadelphia to Norristown four days a week for the job and had resigned another full-time position to take it."

Either Amazon paid a huge wage (not known for that, I heard) of that must have been some kind of crappy full-time position for him to ditch it for something with as little chance of a long-term future as an Amazon job.

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