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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:00 AM Jan 2019

I believe the shutdown ended because of the airplanes...it started to affect the rich..

5 years ago we DEMS in Stevens Point, WI were campaigning for Badgercare(Medicaid) and $10.10 Min Wage on the ballot. I am proud to say my testimony swayed the very very bad Rs on the Co Board, our last hurdle. The entire room stood up to give me an ovation.

It was hard work. Tons of research for handouts. We had go get signatures door to door, write letters, educate the public, etc....Then came the hearings...But some real shits on the Board asked "How much will my hamburger go up at McDonalds"?" that type of crap.

We were successful getting it on the ballot in 2014 and it passed !! However, Walker vetoed it. At the time my friend, an accountant,said "Jody, nothing will change until it affects the RICH". I always remembered that. And he has been proven right time and again.

I believe the shutdown ended because of the airplanes...you see, it started to affect the rich....the poor don't take planes...all the stories on TV about the FED workers' plight, etc...it was the airplanes.

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I believe the shutdown ended because of the airplanes...it started to affect the rich.. (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 OP
. . . and Congress. Senator Murkowski had a public comment on this. empedocles Jan 2019 #1
Congress is largely rich people. Murkowski herself is part of a wealthy legacy family. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #32
Lisa Murkowski mentioned that it was delays in/out of DC affecting R senators. yardwork Jan 2019 #2
So it's how to stop the next phony gov't shut down mitch96 Jan 2019 #14
Hurting businesses for sure . . . Iliyah Jan 2019 #3
Certain airports too greymattermom Jan 2019 #4
+1 n/t flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #11
Were the really rich affected? FreeJoe Jan 2019 #5
there's rich and there's RICH. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #18
Private jets still have to the use air-traffic controllers' system FakeNoose Jan 2019 #24
The air traffic controllers and Turtles Thursday lunch where some of the GOP yelled at Mitch. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #6
That and the fact Pelosi and kacekwl Jan 2019 #7
Certainly one of the straws on the camels back Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #8
A TSA sickout the day after the Super Bowl...can you imagine? cwydro Jan 2019 #17
They might have even have cancelled the Super Bowl FakeNoose Jan 2019 #25
I wouldn't be a bit surprised. cwydro Jan 2019 #26
The Mnuchin's of the world fly private jet. SMC22307 Jan 2019 #9
Exactly! Billionaires couldn't land fly their private jets from MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #10
More likely business travelers. cwydro Jan 2019 #12
I went in and out of LGA earlier this month for work DFW Jan 2019 #42
Almost 90 percent of Americans have flown oberliner Jan 2019 #13
in the last month?? I beg to differ, I am talking about a way of life. jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #15
Because Of Business Travel... ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #19
My father flew weekly. cwydro Jan 2019 #23
I Took My Last Position... ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #30
Me too. Almost all for work. DFW Jan 2019 #43
Most of my friends fly about ten times a year between business and pleasure hack89 Jan 2019 #31
you are making my point jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #34
Yes I did. Do the math hack89 Jan 2019 #35
You are right. Blue_true Jan 2019 #33
And the really rich don't fly commercial. nt cwydro Jan 2019 #16
So I guess the tRumps arn't really rich mitch96 Jan 2019 #21
Lol. cwydro Jan 2019 #22
I showed my post to my pal and she added this.... jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #20
Have you flown lately? It's not just for the rich. bitterross Jan 2019 #27
I get your point BUT jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #28
Are these the people you referred to as your"poors" in another thread? cwydro Jan 2019 #36
I know you cannot let go of that... jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 #37
I wasn't the only one who objected to your use of that term, dear. cwydro Jan 2019 #40
Total sick outs at Reagan National and Dulles would have ended shutdown weeks ago. Sneederbunk Jan 2019 #29
Yup shanti Jan 2019 #38
It affected Dump's personal jet. roamer65 Jan 2019 #39
it was abstract until Senate Republicans were inconvenienced Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #41
Plus, Hannity would fly out of a NY airport, too DFW Jan 2019 #44

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
2. Lisa Murkowski mentioned that it was delays in/out of DC affecting R senators.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

Murkowski said that many of her Republican colleagues didn't notice anything at all until they had to wait in long TSA lines.

mitch96

(13,884 posts)
14. So it's how to stop the next phony gov't shut down
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:35 PM
Jan 2019

The instant tRump stops the gov't ALL gov't workers should walk off the job..
No money? no work.. Hummm what is it when you work for someone and don't get paid??
SLAVERY... Lincoln ended that a while ago. .
m

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Hurting businesses for sure . . .
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:11 AM
Jan 2019

Also, approximately over 14 thousand out of 26 thousand (or more) refused to come into work concerning the IRS and this is the beginning of tax season.

shithole and his cronies and that includes the effed up Republican party was causing the lost of well over 5 billions so far in the shutdown.

These people didn't think of the consequences of the shutdown nor did they care.

The Republican party could care less about the 800,000 plus, including their families.

But the Republicans did care about airport security concerning their way home.


FreeJoe

(1,039 posts)
5. Were the really rich affected?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jan 2019

The TSA has nothing to do with private planes. I don't know how much of impact ATC issues had.

maxsolomon

(33,268 posts)
18. there's rich and there's RICH.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:07 PM
Jan 2019

first class on commercial flights is where Senators generally fly.

private planes are where Trump's cabinet flies.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
24. Private jets still have to the use air-traffic controllers' system
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

All flights have to be registered on the national grid system, or they can't fly. It has been that way since 9/11. So yes it does affect the one per-centers and their ability to get around. I'm not a pilot so I can't say whether every small private airport is included. Does anyone here know?


Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Certainly one of the straws on the camels back
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

but, it was a combination of factors that all contributed to the end.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. A TSA sickout the day after the Super Bowl...can you imagine?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019

There were rumors of that happening.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
25. They might have even have cancelled the Super Bowl
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jan 2019

If people can't get into and out of Atlanta in one weekend, how can they have a SB with a half-full stadium?
I'll bet somebody said that to Cheeto just before he finally caved.




SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
9. The Mnuchin's of the world fly private jet.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

Were they really impacted? The rest us fly commercial and once I saw the headline about LGA diverting, I knew it wouldn't be long before Republicans ended the #trumpshutdown and re-opened government. Drumpf's tanking poll numbers helped, with the Marie Antoinette's of his administration fanning the flames. McConnell getting schooled by members of his own party probably factored in a little as well. And Dirty Don realizing that Ms. Pelosi wasn't going to yield definitely helped.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
42. I went in and out of LGA earlier this month for work
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:29 AM
Jan 2019

No wait to get a taxi into town on the 4th, but left 3 hours before fight time on the 12th to go back down to Dallas because of all the horror stores I had heard. So it took half an hour to get to La Guardia from Grand Central, and another 15 minutes to check in and go through security. There was NO ONE there. I twiddled my thumbs in the departure area for almost 2 hours.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
15. in the last month?? I beg to differ, I am talking about a way of life.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jan 2019

I am talking about a way of life...the HUD bldg where I assist...folks make from $4grand to $15grand a YEAR...while I am sure the 78 year old lady in a wheelchair has flown a few times in her 7 decades of life..it is not part of their lives on a daily basis...like it is for the wealthy.

ProfessorGAC

(64,963 posts)
19. Because Of Business Travel...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jan 2019

...I've flown over a thousand times! More than 500 round trips.
We're comfortable, but not rich.

ProfessorGAC

(64,963 posts)
30. I Took My Last Position...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jan 2019

...before I retired because I only had to travel a few times a year and at least 3 I could just get puppy in car and drive there.
It got old.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
43. Me too. Almost all for work.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:38 AM
Jan 2019

I fly less these days because Europe has so many hi-speed trains. My weekly flights down to Paris and back have been replaced by Thalys trains, and it's now under three hours to Brussels or Frankfurt, under four to Berlin, Paris or Stuttgart, and when you arrive, you're already downtown.

With the many low-cost airlines here, it's cheaper to fly to places like Spain, Italy, Greece or Turkey than it is to get there by any other means of transportation. Air travel IS the common man's way of travel for leisure travel over here. Plus, to get back to North America, who has the time or the money to blow on a cruise ship?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
31. Most of my friends fly about ten times a year between business and pleasure
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jan 2019

I flew 20 times myself. And none of us are rich.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
34. you are making my point
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

for me...rich is relative, isn't it.....If I make $11 grand a year I did not fly in the last 35 days, you likely didn't, either. Airport shutdowns affected those richer than us..so I called them rich...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. You are right.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jan 2019

The overwhelming percentage of Americans don't fly on a even remotely regular basis and the vast, vast majority of cargo travel on the ground or water by truck, train or ship.

I honestly think that it was more the likihood of tax return checks being heavily delayed and food stamps expiring in one week that moved The Idiot in Chief from his foolish position.

mitch96

(13,884 posts)
21. So I guess the tRumps arn't really rich
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jan 2019

Didn't iVanka get heckled on a commercial Jet Blue flight to Florida??? Poor baby... not even first class...
m

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
20. I showed my post to my pal and she added this....
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jan 2019

I think it was also the increasing reported problems at the Atlanta airport - they are expecting 150,000 (?!) for the Super Bowl this coming weekend. Talk about bad press!

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
27. Have you flown lately? It's not just for the rich.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

I used to fly years ago. Before there were security check points and frisking. Before anyone asked for more than just your ticket - they didn't even ask for an ID. I flew on another person's ticket several times. They weren't going to use it, so I did.

Back then, flying was for business travelers and the upper-class/rich. These days, airplanes are buses with wings.

I suspect the Congress critters being inconvenienced and the fact that the travel to/from the Superbowl would be a huge PR nightmare had more to do with it than with the "rich" being inconvenienced.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
28. I get your point BUT
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

the people I mentioned in the HUD bldg do not fly, they don't even drive..out of 71 tenants 13 have cars...I look out my window and see guys on their bicycles in minus 27 degrees returning from the grocery store with supplies.

I suppose the term rich is relevant...the HUD guy making $4grand a year is rich to the homeless shelter guy next door..who has no roof....

Have flown and DO FLY also figures in...I have flown 4x in 67 years..whereas my sis the ballerina flies all over the world.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
37. I know you cannot let go of that...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jan 2019

you might be interested to know that is what they call each other..don't pretend to walk in their shoes...we love respect and help each other...I am sorry you are offended by a phrase we use....you would be surprised how candid they are and they call a spade a spade.

Put your outrage to good use...volunteer at your homeless shelter.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
40. I wasn't the only one who objected to your use of that term, dear.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:48 PM
Jan 2019

And spare me the lecture on what I should do in my spare time.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
38. Yup
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jan 2019

I always felt that it would come down to the airplanes, both people and cargo. Plus the superbowl is coming up. Can't have the NFL owners losing money, can they? They probably read him the riot act.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
41. it was abstract until Senate Republicans were inconvenienced
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:32 AM
Jan 2019

The ruling Russiapublicans do not like being inconvenienced.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
44. Plus, Hannity would fly out of a NY airport, too
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:43 AM
Jan 2019

Trump would listen to him as much as any Republican in Congress.

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