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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDaniel Dale apparently discovered where Trump got his ridiculous numbers on illegal immigration cost
Seems to be from OAN, One America News, a Faux News wannabe.
Dale asked about it here
Link to tweet
and posted what he found here:
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
ProfessorGAC
(64,422 posts)Some lady on CSPAN WJ spouted those made up figures yesterday.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)loves to blow bullshit numbers. Hope people remember who are and what the make up of those so called 11 million illegals. The high percentage are non Hispanic who came here on Legal Tourist Visas and just said,I like it,and I am not going home.
Igel
(35,196 posts)This sites the study that some conservatives like to cite. You can follow the link if you want to take issue with the methodology, but typically the response isn't to say, "They made this mistake" but "The results don't match other sources."
The "they don't match" argument is barely adequate in this kind of an argument. It's a shouting match, saying "we have 5 ways of measuring it, and yours loses because it's the outlier." It's playing the odds, that it's more likely for one method to be wrong than for four methods to be wrong. There's something to be said for that, but it's still playing the odds. Saying *why* the numbers arrived at were arrived at incorrectly disposes of the shouting match and makes it principled--yes, it's still possible for the "error" to be mis-identified, but it really lowers the odds.
And still the estimates that the vast majority of those who are here illegally are Latino, over 70%. Many of those also came here on tourist visas and stayed--which is the justification for raising the bar for issuing tourist visas. (And the other top 10 countries as of 2015 were India at 4%, China/Philippines at 3% each, Korea at 2% and Vietnam at 1%. Everybody else--from Australia to Poland to Uruguay to Nepal--make up 16%, so there are a lot of small numbers worked in there.)
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_1214_PLCY_pops-est-report.pdf
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)tens of thousands who migrated from Canada .
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Really?
Isn't that number what our GDP is?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Thanks for setting me straight.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)But his sycophants and sicko fans dont give a shit about reality
Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)it qualifies you to work as a statistician for TrumpCo.
JHB
(37,131 posts)Number shown:
$18,014,497,800
Trillion-dollar version:
$18,014,497,800,000
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)that is what Trump tweeted, just shy of $19 trillion. The written ones by someone else is $ billions.
kimbutgar
(20,882 posts)struggle4progress
(118,039 posts)kimbutgar
(20,882 posts)Ella Fitzgerald had such a great voice.
Thanks for sharing!
winstars
(4,213 posts)They are the real problem!!!
Just listen this guy. He should be the head of DHS!!!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Has more veracity to it than anything Twitler ever spewed