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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:39 PM Jan 2019

you will witness righteous fury

No Escape for Roger Stone: Mueller’s Case Is a Slam Dunk and He’s Too Slimy to Get Flipped
Prosecutor who helped convict Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby for lying and obstruction says the case against Trump’s old pal is virtually perfect.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-escape-for-roger-stone-muellers-case-is-a-slam-dunk-and-hes-too-slimy-to-get-flipped?ref=home

The long-anticipated indictment of Roger Stone finally dropped on Friday, and it landed on Stone like the proverbial ton of bricks. As someone who prosecuted Scooter Libby and others on similar charges and defended white-collar cases involving similar charges as those alleged here—false statements, obstruction of justice and witness tampering—my takeaway is that Stone should begin getting his affairs in order. Barring a presidential pardon (always the wild-card possibility with a POTUS like Trump) Stone will be convicted and receive a very substantial prison sentence. This is as close to a slam-dunk case as a prosecutor will ever bring.

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Unfortunately for Stone, and what makes fighting this case futile, is that the government will not need to rely on the credibility of any individuals to make its case. The email and text evidence laid out in excruciating detail in the indictment is not open to interpretation. Just one example: On the very day that Stone testified that he had never sent or received emails or text messages from Credico, the two men had exchanged more than 30 text messages. Good luck spinning that.

And if that were not enough—and believe me, it is—the case will be tried in D.C. There is a facile critique that liberals are soft on crime. That can be true where the defendants are perceived to be from a disadvantaged minority. But have pity on an arrogant, white-collar defendant who is in cahoots with a despised Republican president; you will witness righteous fury. The venire in D.C. reviles Trump, and they will find Stone loathsome. The only contentiousness will be during jury selection, as the potential jurors all fight to be chosen so they can “do justice.”

Finally, do not expect to see Special Counsel Robert Mueller make any attempt to flip Stone and have him cooperate. A defendant like Stone is far more trouble than he is worth to a prosecutor. Stone is too untrustworthy for a prosecutor to ever rely upon. He has told so many documented lies, and bragged so often about his dirty tricks, that he simply has too much baggage to deal with even if here to want to cooperate—which seems unlikely in any event. Mueller, I suspect, would not even be willing to engage in a preliminary debrief with Stone to just test the possibility of cooperation out of concern that Stone would immediately go on television with his pals at Fox News to decry Mueller’s Gestapo tactics.

In short, Mueller does not need Stone to get to someone else and, even if he did, he could not rely on whatever Stone told him. Stone has nothing to sell that Mueller would be interested in buying.

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you will witness righteous fury (Original Post) dajoki Jan 2019 OP
Oh there are hundreds of Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #1
I want to see him become the result that keeps DFT awake at night RainCaster Jan 2019 #2
a new legal word for me in this article Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #3
d'oh! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #4
He has. denbot Jan 2019 #5
Unless Stone is Mueller's equalivant of Sammy the Bull. Volaris Jan 2019 #6

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
3. a new legal word for me in this article
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

"venire"

Venire refers to an order issued by a judge to a sheriff to summon prospective jurors. Also called venire facias. Venire may also refer to the panel of prospective jurors from which a jury is selected.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
4. d'oh!
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jan 2019

I had not considered that Stone would be more trouble than he's worth to flip. I thought the indictment was so heavy so as to ensure that Stone would try to make a deal. The author has almost completely convinced me; it's still at least possible that Mueller will extract some credible information on others from Stone.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
5. He has.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jan 2019

It is very likely Mueller has all the electronic communications Stone has exchanged with his cohorts.

Much better evidence than Stone’s own testimony could provide.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
6. Unless Stone is Mueller's equalivant of Sammy the Bull.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jan 2019

MUELLER had The Bull COLD on at least a dozen murders, and let him walk for Gotti.

We will see ...

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