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And their coffee sucks anyway.

Most people have never heard of him. And the idea that Americans simply want another businessman is very shaky.

Not a factor IMO.

a Democratic panic du jour.

It does a lot of things that the left likes, but it's still a large. ubiquitous corporation that puts out overpriced, not-that-great products. I don't think that running a company like that is enough to make you an attractive presidential candidate.

The election's more than 18 months away. It wasn't until 1/07 that more than 50% of (D) recognized Obama's name enough to say they preferred somebody else.

He can completely finance his own campaign.

You must not be a Supersonics fan. Remember them? Seattle does.

terribly afraid of this candidacy that as of this moment amounts to absolutely nothing, and in the long run is likely to amount to nothing.

Your own warning of certain disaster seems to indicate he will get more votes from the right than the left.

What happened to Starbucks? They used to be very liberal.

Schultz is "liberal", he just knows he can't get anywhere in the Dem primary. Like Bloomberg.

A businessman who got rich selling overpriced coffee to suckers.

for months now... even though, if Bernie ran as an Independent - and he surely would win - I think that would spell utter DISASTER for the chances of what's sposed to be the "Big Tent" party in 2020. So, why is this any different?

is not the same thing as wanting him to run as something else.

between not wanting a candidate to run with a particular party and actually wanting him or her to run for the office unaffiliated.

our governmental show.

He is the one who raised the Goldman Sachs speeches to sow suspicion that Hillary may be corrupt.
He is the one who started to cast aspersions at the Clinton Foundation (which did a lot of good work) to make it look like it was uncouth.
He was the one who coined the euphemism "corporate democrats." Fox news and RW then just ran with it.

I shall not forget.

Maybe others do.

I've been to Starbucks twice in my life. Both times were when somebody else paid. The first time I got a coffee that was too strong; the second time I got an iced green tea. I got a stomachache both times, which surprised me because I have a cast iron digestive system.

Once I won a Starbucks $10 card in a company drawing. I gave it to a coworker.

So, who is Howard Schultz and why should we care?

Going to bet nobody knows about this "Shultz", and the "excitement" here is what ya call..bupkis. He's done nothing, and it's way too late to become a brilliant public person.

he has money behind him which brings influence. He may be socially liberal, but he probably is not all that much of an economic liberal cause if he was he wouldn't be the CEO of Starbucks which has been pretty anti-union which would give Sherrod Brown and Bernie Sanders an opening to go after this guy. Which could drive a wedge between Pro-business and Pro-Labor Democrats.

Combine their billions and they could easily syphon 5-10% away from us in the general election in some key states.

get his turn to run a second time for president in the 2020 Democratic primary, should he decide to throw his hat into the ring. Those saying he should "run in his own party" as an Independent, if he does take a second shot, are only guaranteeing 4 more years of the Dotard dick-tatorship.

Split the republican ticket for a change. They could choose between a real dummy and a Pretty smart guy. We win... Bloomberg may do it just to rid us of this idiot we have now. Hope so. He doesn't like Trump.

Trumps base is going no where. We can be pulled apart by I's as proved in 2016.

Smart pukes would go against trump. Only his idiot base would stay with him. Democrats won't vote for a republican independent. The greens fuck us over more.

Don't trust that guy.

We have:
- Mandate (because we picked up seats in the house in the midterms)
- no foreign policy success (because nothing even close)
- no incumbent charisma (because only his sheeple can even stand him)
and
- scandal (because, holy shit, lol)

We need two more keys to win per Lichtman's model.
We could get any of:
- challenger charisma
- recession
- foreign policy disaster
- meaningful third party challenge
- meaningful republicans nomination battle
- social unrest
- policy change

Donnie's got incumbency locked up unless he doesn't run for some reason, and long term economy seems to be his even if we have a recession.

Policy change is an interesting one. Does his tax cut qualify? Personally, I don't think so, but Lichtman seems to as he doesn't list it as still in play.

two vote getters. That's how other countries do it. With a system like that you are forced into a 2 party system with spoilers and such.

And that Democrats would boycott Starbucks and hurt company!!

You know its bad for the country , and why wimpy tweeted about this. He knows it'll help split the votes.