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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Wall was a PR stunt concocted by Stone who was just indicted - Media needs to connect dots
and stop talking about the wall as if it's a high priority issue -- the wall idea should never be normalized
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The Wall was a PR stunt concocted by Stone who was just indicted - Media needs to connect dots (Original Post)
diva77
Jan 2019
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maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)1. Really? Do you have a link that explains his role?
I never speak of the feasibility of the Wall, just that it's a club President Bullshit uses to bully the Smart Kids into a stupid fight.
diva77
(7,629 posts)2. Where The Idea For Donald Trump's Wall Came From
Where The Idea For Donald Trump's Wall Came From
Stuart Anderson Jan 4, 2019,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2019/01/04/where-the-idea-for-donald-trumps-wall-came-from/#19d320d64415
Stuart Anderson Jan 4, 2019,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2019/01/04/where-the-idea-for-donald-trumps-wall-came-from/#19d320d64415
Donald Trumps plan to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border did not come from security analysts following years of study or through evidence that a wall would reduce illegal immigration. Amazingly, for something so central to the current U.S. president, the wall came about as a mnemonic device thought up by a pair of political consultants to remind Donald Trump to talk about illegal immigration.
In 2014, Trumps plan to run for president moved into high gear. His political confidant was consultant Roger Stone. Inside Trumps circle, the power of illegal immigration to manipulate popular sentiment was readily apparent, and his advisers brainstormed methods for keeping their attention-addled boss on message, writes Joshua Green, author of Devils Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the Nationalist Uprising. They needed a trick, a mnemonic device. In the summer of 2014, they found one that clicked.
Joshua Green had good access to Trump insiders, including Sam Nunberg, who worked with Stone. Roger Stone and I came up with the idea of the Wall, and we talked to Steve [Bannon] about it, according to Nunberg. It was to make sure he [Trump] talked about immigration.
The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea, writes Green. But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit, a presidential cattle call put on by David Bossies group, Citizens United. One of his pledges was, I will build a Wall, and the place just went nuts, said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. Nobody, he said, builds like Trump.
In 2014, Trumps plan to run for president moved into high gear. His political confidant was consultant Roger Stone. Inside Trumps circle, the power of illegal immigration to manipulate popular sentiment was readily apparent, and his advisers brainstormed methods for keeping their attention-addled boss on message, writes Joshua Green, author of Devils Bargain: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the Nationalist Uprising. They needed a trick, a mnemonic device. In the summer of 2014, they found one that clicked.
Joshua Green had good access to Trump insiders, including Sam Nunberg, who worked with Stone. Roger Stone and I came up with the idea of the Wall, and we talked to Steve [Bannon] about it, according to Nunberg. It was to make sure he [Trump] talked about immigration.
The concept of the Wall did not click right away with the candidate. Initially, Trump seemed indifferent to the idea, writes Green. But in January 2015, he tried it out at the Iowa Freedom Summit, a presidential cattle call put on by David Bossies group, Citizens United. One of his pledges was, I will build a Wall, and the place just went nuts, said Nunberg. Warming to the concept, Trump waited a beat and then added a flourish that brought down the house. Nobody, he said, builds like Trump.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)4. Thanks. WTF.
It's all a con. It's all he's always been - a bullshit artist.
moondust
(19,958 posts)3. I've wondered
if Stone--old pro at racist GOP politics that he is--may have picked up the wall idea from the Gaza wall, which some wingnuts have recently been citing as evidence that walls work.
diva77
(7,629 posts)5. haven't heard that one before
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)6. The laybyrinthine West Bank wall is a crime against humanity
so of course Cons think it's great.