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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:22 PM Jan 2019

Hawaii's Star Advertiser: Tulsi Gabbard's run for President brings questions about her past

and her connections to the Science of Identify Foundation, led by guru Chris Butler.

Her connections to the cult may be why she has already attacked Kamala Harris and Mazie Hirono, accusing them of bigotry against Catholics. She may be preparing for inevitable questions about her own beliefs.

One of the hallmarks of a cult is secrecy about its beliefs. This may be why Gabbard and people with the Foundation refuse to give interviews on her relationship with the religion. She promotes herself as a Hindu, but she was raised in a specific cult led by Butler, and has never publicly disassociated from him. (She has recently apologized for the hurt her statements on LGBT issues has caused.)

Her aunt, Caroline Gabbard, a retired professor at the University of Hawaii, has broken with Tulsi and questions where her loyalties lie.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/01/27/hawaii-news/gabbards-run-brings-questions-about-her-past/?HSA=ff0cbd9b1e709ee386cede681c7c2283f031e855


Gabbard, who identified Butler as her “guru dev,” which roughly translates to spiritual master, in a 2015 video, didn’t respond to an interview request for this story, which included a detailed list of questions about her religious background, her relationship with Butler, and any influence he has had on her political career.

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Rick Ross, executive director of the Cult Education Institute, a New Jersey-based nonprofit that researches and advocates against destructive cults and movements, estimated he had been in contact with more than 100 people over the years who were involved in the group. He described Butler as a “dictatorial leader” who has exploited followers of his brand of religion.

“He is a hateful person. He is homophobic. He has said horrible things about the LGBT community,” said Ross. “And he is, to say the least, not exactly an icon of either idealistic or ethical living.”

Neither Butler or Jeannie Bishop, president of the Science of Identity Foundation, would agree to interviews for this story. But Bishop and the foundation’s attorney, Anthony Glassman, of Glassman Media Group, based in Beverly Hills, Calif., said in emails to the Star-Advertiser that various allegations that have been made against Butler by former adherents are untrue and suggested that criticism of the foundation and Butler has been motivated by religious bigotry.

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“Some unholy jumble of delusion and hubris, ignorance and lurching ambition, begs the question: to what and whom exactly is Rep. Gabbard loyal?” (Caroline Gabbard) wrote. “The fact this remains an open question does not bode well for Hawaii and beyond, and least of all for Gabbard herself.”

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Hawaii's Star Advertiser: Tulsi Gabbard's run for President brings questions about her past (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2019 OP
Excellent information. I do not believe her campaign will last long. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #1
I suspect she's angling for a VP slot -- and I think she'd be a drag on the ticket pnwmom Jan 2019 #2
I completely agree. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #5
Why is it that the more I hear about her... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #3
She has a more moderate record than most of the Dems who are running pnwmom Jan 2019 #6
I think that she will have a hard time refusing to debate the Blue_true Jan 2019 #10
her main reason to run isn't her winning the primary JI7 Jan 2019 #4
this obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #9
What is her main reason to run? oberliner Jan 2019 #15
Appreciate that her "past" is getting Cha Jan 2019 #7
There was my news ... cgralow Jan 2019 #12
Mahalo for that, cgralow! Cha Jan 2019 #13
De nada cgralow Jan 2019 #14
Kick dalton99a Jan 2019 #8
Here's the Story Behind the Story cgralow Jan 2019 #11
When Gabbard announced........... Takket Jan 2019 #16
I'm looking forward to her losing her seat, also. She can take a P.R. job with her guru dev. pnwmom Jan 2019 #17

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
2. I suspect she's angling for a VP slot -- and I think she'd be a drag on the ticket
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

even in that position.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
6. She has a more moderate record than most of the Dems who are running
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jan 2019

but she confused the issue by endorsing Bernie, so some people incorrectly view her as more progressive than she is.

She also has refused debates in any of her runs for the House, which has made it more difficult to pin her down.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. I think that she will have a hard time refusing to debate the
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jan 2019

State Senator who is considering running against her for her seat. He is from a powerful political family in the state, just like she is. This time around, it will be muscle against muscle.

My guess. She flames out of the Presidential race really fast and lose her seat during her state's democratic primary in 2020.

I must admit that I am disappointed with her. I contributed to her first campaign after reading of a change on her past views and fearing that then resurgent republicans would get the seat.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
7. Appreciate that her "past" is getting
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jan 2019

exposure in the Star Advertiser.. before she was running for potus I don't think there was news like this on TG.

cgralow

(24 posts)
12. There was my news ...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:47 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:40 PM - Edit history (1)

because I cared about Hawai'i's rural Congressional District 2 well before I knew she'd run for Pres.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
16. When Gabbard announced...........
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jan 2019

Concerns were brought up about her. I knew nothing and DU educated me. suffice it to say she not only has no business being President, she shouldn't even be in Congress. I look forward to her being primaried.

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