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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh my GOD Kamala Harris could win this thing!
This from my gut as well as the evidence. I didnt hear her whole speech but she made me relax. She is strong, capable and not afraid. She doesnt have to resort to tricks and divisive tactics. She actually sounds like she means it when she says she wants to treat all Americans with dignity. It may reach not the cultists but the frightened right.
I am more enthused every day.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Good Progressive, Ted Lieu, has endorsed her, too.
http://democraticunderground.com/100211740719
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I will definitely watch it again later today.
nini
(16,672 posts)She's one tough cookie and smart as hell.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)Why single Bernie out? If she wins, everyone who had another candidate as a favorite would also be disappointed.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)Bernie and his supporters sound like they are "entitled" to his nomination. Others are just running.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)If you mean the "Bernie or Bust" crowd, then I'm with you. But I was an ardent Bernie supporter in the last election, and Sen. Harris is probably my favorite candidate this time around.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)Who says he is entitled to it?
Apollyonus
(812 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)earthshine
(1,642 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Seem to have lost some interest in going after Beto for the moment.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,819 posts)gah!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)Did Bernie "scare" Hillary supporters too?
Did Hillary "scare" Bernie supporters?
Does Bernie "scare" Harris supporters?
My gawd will this sadly predictable penchant for every single GD thread about the upcoming primaries NOT have to include the obligatory Bernie Bashing Bros contributions?
Who cares if some are actually "scared" of Harris? So what? What a bunch of wimps. The ones you hear are just the loudest most obnoxious minority and probably made up of a lot of Putin trolls, as there was proof of that from the FBI last time, and why would they stop now? Whomever wins will have won, and (almost) all those that supported other candidates will vote for the one that ultimately wins the primaries. Full Stop.
I was/am a Bernie supporter, and am also a Harris supporter! Shocking I know. I'd be happy with either one of them. As would most others. Give it a freakin rest.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)You cannot support BOTH of them. Eventually you'll cast a vote for Bernie amirite?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)Especially if someone like Harris DOES run. I'm a big fan of hers. I think its time for the old guard, to let loose some of their top down power structure. (Although Bernie, while physically old, his platform aligns closely with the younger progressives in the party, which is why I'd still be stoked if he won)
musette_sf
(10,199 posts)and sent all my love and best wishes and good vibes up the Peninsula and across the Bay. I also happy-cried. I'm not sure if I've been so psyched for a candidate since Bobby Kennedy.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)She can debate him under the table and make him scream in pain. She is also not afraid of him. His name calling, his nasty politics, I think she can go toe to toe with that jerk.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Was the voracity with which they've started attacking her in the past week. Almost Clintonesque.
She blew me away. A fantastic speaker who absolutely sounds like she means what she says. This is the first time within the last few weeks when she has come out with actual positions on some things. She was fantastic. Go Kamala!
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)Tess49
(1,579 posts)nolabear
(41,938 posts)Calling it a coastal speech and saying she ignored flyover country. Jesus Christ...
maxsolomon
(33,252 posts)not watching.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Nuff said.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Afraid of her.
Why is this has-been on anyone's television?
yardwork
(61,539 posts)deurbano
(2,894 posts)the glass as half full, while Harris sees it as half empty! I told my husband to turn the channel! (I had originally put it on MSNBC trying to avoid Nina Turner on CNN.... oh, well.)
Ken Blackwell, who made the weight of paper a reason to reject voter registration forms in Ohio! Of course....
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Ken_Blackwell.pdf
nolabear
(41,938 posts)I like Rev but that was ridiculous.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Just asking, to see if they were right, if it was a speech for her location at the time.
I'll try to watch it and see. If that's the case, you can't really judge someone's chances by being popular in one's home state and giving a speech tailored for that state. But at least she's popular in her home state, which crosses a hurdle.
oldsoftie
(12,492 posts)hunter
(38,304 posts)nolabear
(41,938 posts)demmiblue
(36,824 posts)Cha
(296,893 posts)hunter
(38,304 posts)Bernie Sanders is going down the same ego-driven path Ralph Nader did.
It's not me being divisive. It's him.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Thank you Bernie.
He will continue to compete in the primaries as he and every other capable candidate, left, right and center.
Let the man compete. Let others compete. For crying out loud, are we still taking Russias divisive memes seriously?
Go Bernie!
Go Kamala!
Go Elizabeth!
Go Biden!
Go Cory!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Demsrule86
(68,504 posts)He should not run.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)And you definitely shouldn't apologize.
Exactly.
oldsoftie
(12,492 posts)nice guy, but his time is past. Too many will see his age at election, 79, as too big a risk factor.
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)I shall call it the Trumpititis O vaccine.
Gothmog
(144,951 posts)I really love that speech
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)Its amazing.
I could totally see myself doing GOTV for Kamala.
Or Sherrod or Amy or Julian or Cory.
Those are just my top 5.
We have an amazing group of leaders.
In the blackest of nights, the stars really shine.
badhair77
(4,210 posts)Very impressed with KH today. Her speech made my day.
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,389 posts)It will be interesting to see how effective her campaign/message will be with the rest of the nation.
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Brother Buzz
(36,389 posts)The freepers are already pooping their pants!
Cha
(296,893 posts)enough to poop about.
nolabear
(41,938 posts)I suspect they are. Shes no novice.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)FirstLight
(13,357 posts)Did you get that angle? She's running as a Prosecutor/Lawyer...FOR the American People! She's willing to represent us against the big crime syndicate aka the Rethugs and racists and Oligarchs etc...
I'm *so* down!!!
Haven't felt this good since Obama in 06-07
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)"a vast right-wing conspiracy".
Appropriate then and even more appropriate now.....
barbtries
(28,774 posts)we ignored her at our peril. that vast conspiracy took down our rightful president.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)to BUY control of all three branches of our government.
Trouble is, as the simple, direct old saying goes: Republicans cannot govern.
......
honest.abe
(8,617 posts)RandySF
(58,531 posts)She might be onto something.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)governor of California on her resume since I'm not at all sure people are a lot more willing to elect senators president now just because Obama went directly from senate to WH.
nolabear
(41,938 posts)A little rework and shes good to go:
Excellent idea. Love that song and it was never more true than RIGHT NOW!!
SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)Props to her Jamaican father!
TeamPooka
(24,210 posts)OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)For The People . . ! ! !
still_one
(92,062 posts)deurbano
(2,894 posts)still_one
(92,062 posts)honest.abe
(8,617 posts)She's the one folks. Our next President!
Kath2
(3,074 posts)This is someone I am sure I can support heart and soul.
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)She is susceptible to RW bait.
honest.abe
(8,617 posts)Otherwise it sounds like a cheap shot.
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honest.abe
(8,617 posts)Non-issue for most voters.
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Gothmog
(144,951 posts)SKKY
(11,797 posts)...but for the love of Pete she makes it difficult. Damn impressive candidate, and a damn impressive speech. Kinda reminds me what political leadership looks like. It's been a while.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I like what I see from Kamala. I would like to hear from more of our strong candidates before making a decision. It's looking like we have a very strong field (minus a couple who are unlikely to make it very far).
downeastdaniel
(497 posts)I agree.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)We were told the same thing about Oprah a few months ago.
nolabear
(41,938 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Oprah gave a great speech somewhere,
and there were many posts saying we must nominate her in 2020.
PatSeg
(47,285 posts)But there is no comparison between Harris and Oprah. Oprah is a popular TV celebrity and Kamala Harris is an accomplished government servant.
It is early to be declaring winners, but I have to say that I was very impressed with her speech. Meanwhile, we have a long way to go. I remember when Howard Dean was seen as the probable nominee.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)was seriously contemplating Oprah. A handful of dipshits does not a candidacy make.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)Makes me very, very excited.
RandySF
(58,531 posts)nolabear
(41,938 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)this is early and the other side will, I repeat will, have their claws out.
We need to be careful and support our strongest candidates.
Gothmog
(144,951 posts)kimbutgar
(21,060 posts)Listening to her speech from the heart and talking about real things that affect people and not something stupid a medieval vanity wall. I loved that line! But a great punch in the orange maggots face.
mchill
(1,017 posts)And from my hometown of Oakland
When she was AG her office was the one that acted to fight MasterCard for me for erroneous charges ($500). My friend's company had to use the LA port as opposed to the Oakland port to beat the Trump's Tariff crunch from China. CBP in LA were causing her so many delays and hurting her business. She called Senator Harris's office and it was fixed instantly.
She runs an responsive office, for sure.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)I hate this kind of cult of personality stuff.
onetexan
(13,025 posts)I'd love for her to be a VP candidate on a ticket.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There are other hurdles to come. Iowa, the Carolinas, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan....
nolabear
(41,938 posts)If you like I can cite her background and chops. But you can judge by many factors, including how one makes you feel and Ive seen her keep a level head and be calm and assertive in some important situations. Its a decent indicator when combined with other things.
spicysista
(1,663 posts)Yes! I am here for it!
SirElaih
(37 posts)... but I will reserve judgement until I see more from the other candidates. We have the most diverse pool of candidates ever, and I don't like seeing this diversity undermined by declaring 'frontrunners'. Sen. Harris could beat Trump, and god bless her for it, but many of our candidates could do the same.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Response to ehrnst (Reply #153)
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)have to do with Kamala?
Are you saying that there is only room for one POC in the POTUS race? Seriously?
"Who" is telling other candidates "not to run," when they talk about who is popular? DU? I thought that's what primaries decided....
I had no idea we have that kind of power.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)undermines other "diverse" candidates?
Does this effect also apply when the field is all white men?
ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Same tactics toward Clinton.
nolabear
(41,938 posts)If she and her people are smart they can spin it to her advantage. But I hope they stay above the gutter. Its a fine line between ignoring it and gutter fighting.
yuiyoshida
(41,819 posts)I posted about her and was sent nasty messages... I blocked them, they seemed like Russian Trolls or perhaps even BOB's.
UniqueUserName
(178 posts). . .I hope this woman runs for President. She's amazing!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He became nationally beloved after that hearing, and his questioning lead to Sessions recusing himself.
But Harris is a good examiner. She was a prosecutor, after all. Cool under pressure, and nothing gets past her. I saw her question..I think it was Barr, the AG nominee? She was very good.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)She asked great questions and left him in the dust.
Welcome to DU.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)All of those hearings with worms like Jeff Sessions...she was focused and fearless and the same thing that terrifies Trump when it comes to Nancy Pelosi would terrify him on the debate stage with Ms. Harris.
lynintenn
(644 posts)We should wait until all candidates have declared . It scares me that there are so many running. Remember there were 17 running in the GOP primaries and not all got to participate in the debates. I don't know why but I'm hoping Beto choses to run. I think he is the most electable.
honest.abe
(8,617 posts)How do I know? The RW trolls are out in force tonight to take her down.
oldsoftie
(12,492 posts)honest.abe
(8,617 posts)And thats Kamala.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)he/she can't participate. That way, a candidate who is foregone not to win doesn't take up valuable debate time from the real contenders.
Yeah, it didn't help the Republicans that there were 17 contenders. And there was Trump in the middle during debates. I don't know how that happened. Maybe he had the strongest poll numbers? I don't know.
nolabear
(41,938 posts)Well see. Im enthused for the first time in spite of liking numerous people.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)The great thing is that I think we have several candidates who can win. It's a good situation to be in!
madville
(7,404 posts)I haven't forgiven her for that. Sanders, Warren, Booker and the ring leader Gillibrand don't get a pass on it either of course. I'll look for someone else that doesn't destroy a fellow well-loved Democrat's career in order to advance their own.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I definitely hold Gillibrand responsible. She was the face of the ouster movement, and the most outspoken. Harris joined in, but not right away. Booker was late in the game, as was Warren, or at least I heard about them after others.
So although it matters, I hold the ringleaders mainly responsible. Although that makes the others followers, not leaders, which is a big problem in and of itself. I think that is a problem with several of the candidates; they aren't natural leaders. We're talking leader of the free world, for gosh sakes.
Sherrod Brown also jumped on the bandwagon. Disappointing.
I wonder if there will be any Democratic candidates who didn't vote to oust Franken? Biden, if he decides to run.
madville
(7,404 posts)I actually find it more troubling they jumped on Gellibrand's coattails, to me that is almost worse than being the leader because they made the decision to join in so it would benefit them later politically but I think it backfired with many in the base that love Franken.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)to have condemned Franken's behavior.
From New York Magazine (not a right-wing site):
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/02/9-times-joe-biden-whispered-in-womens-ears.html
Joe Biden is the vice-president of the United States of America, but he is the president of Awkwardly Whispering in Womens Ears. This morning, Stephanie Carter, the wife of new Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, became the newest victim of Bidens war on ears when he whispered sweet nothings with his hands planted firmly on her shoulders. This, it seems, is a favorite tactic of ol Uncle Joe. Here are eight other times Biden was caught creepily murmuring in ladies ears.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)except for Amy, and she said the only reason she didn't sign was because she works alongside him.
Those women were there IN the Senate, and they were talking to the young women Congressional staffers -- including the ones who complained about his behavior. I trust their judgement of the situation. I'm sorry that Al Franken, who I think is a good person, got caught up in a cultural sea change. His kind of joking around is no longer acceptable with many women. And he did the right thing to resign when he did.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She said she spoke with him privately, instead. I THINK she said she thought an ethics investigation might be appropriate. She didn't say she didn't jump on the bandwagon because she works with him. She's fine. She did the right thing.
Biden - That's Biden's personality. I did see a story on his touchy feely ways. Nothing inappropriate, IMO. Or at least, I'm okay w/the way he is.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)With regard to Biden, the question isn't whether either of us are okay with his ways -- it's about how the women and girls felt who he was nuzzling. And there are a bunch of photos out there of very uncomfortable looking women and girls he's gotten too close too.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/amy-klobuchar-senate-al-franken-minnesota/index.html
Washington (CNN)Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who serves in the Senate representing Minnesota with Al Franken, explained Friday that she didn't publicly ask Franken to resign this week because of their relationship.
"I had condemned his conduct early on when the first allegation was made," she told CNN's Dana Bash on "Inside Politics." "I felt I was in a different role as his colleague, that I'm someone that has worked with him for a long time, there's a lot of trust there, and I felt it was best to handle it in that way."
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Esp those on the committees with him. Gillibrand made a point of stressing that she and Franken are friends.
I'm okay with her actions in not jumping on the bandwagon. She made an independent decision. She didn't go along to get along. I'm okay w/Biden, too, as far as this sort of thing goes. I'm NOT okay with Biden's legislative history: he sponsored the bill that prevents Americans from including medical bills in bankruptcies. Delaware, his state, is the corporate home to many corporations, whom Biden catered to.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)I'm fine with her decision not to join in.. But I don't think anybody should be ruling out, as a Presidential candidate, ALL the other women of the Senate simply because they signed the letter.
With regard to Biden, are you okay with how Stephanie Carter and the young girls look with Biden look in these photos?
From New York Magazine:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/02/9-times-joe-biden-whispered-in-womens-ears.html
Joe Biden is the vice-president of the United States of America, but he is the president of Awkwardly Whispering in Womens Ears. This morning, Stephanie Carter, the wife of new Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, became the newest victim of Bidens war on ears when he whispered sweet nothings with his hands planted firmly on her shoulders. This, it seems, is a favorite tactic of ol Uncle Joe. Here are eight other times Biden was caught creepily murmuring in ladies ears.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)pnwmom
(108,960 posts)with Amy. It's that the poster I was responding to -- not you -- said that signing the letter (that all the women Senators but Amy signed) was enough of a reason to eliminate them as candidates for President. I don't think it's right to eliminate ALL of them except Amy on that basis alone.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She showed she makes decisions according to what is best for herself. She also said, "I will serve my six-year term, during her reelection campaign in 2018. Ha. After winning, within the month she announced she was considering running for President (which we all knew, right?).
I do think that anyone on the list to oust Franken is questionable. The decision to oust someone without even questioning any of the accusers, much less getting any accusations under oath, is a big deal, and shows that the decision was to serve one's own interest.
Those who followed and signed the list are also questionable, because they are followers, not leaders.
Kobuchar distinguishes herself in this regard, for whatever reason. It shows independence and leadership to make a call that goes against the flow.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)right there in the Senate with them? And they might even have talked to some others who didn't come forward. This all didn't just happen on a single day.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)by the ousters, they would have made that clear. ESPECIALLY if it were under oath, either sworn verbally or by affidavit.
A couple of the accusations, I didn't even regard as harassment, even if true.
This accusation thing has reached a fever pitch, with some ridiculous or unfair results, and does harm to the legitimate harassment accusations (all under oath).
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)involved. If the staffers were most comfortable reporting anonymously, and justice could prevail by asking him to resign, then it would make sense for them to handle it as they did. If he had then asked for a full scale investigation instead, then they would have had one.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)from Congress every spoke to ANY of them. None of the Senators ever said they did, either. Geez! Get a grip. This is not a Clue game. Some things are just apparent.
I'm not going to respond to this line of nonsense, any more.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)rickford66
(5,522 posts)But, I like her.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)bloomed.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)MrGrieves
(315 posts)Shit that is being said about her is crazy. The ratio is really bad. They are not wasting any time slinging mud at her.
summer_in_TX
(2,713 posts)Kamala radiated love, real love, to her hometown crowd and many supporters, and joy.
Yes, she is clearly brilliant, strong, and unflappable. Her speech was very effective, forceful, and inspiring.
I'd only seen excerpts of her during hearings and in interviews before, and while she displayed the effective prosecutor that she is, I wondered about factors such as likability. Of course, I'd picked up on the degree of buzz about her but wanted to know more about the characteristics that are also required. After watching and listening to the whole speech, I'm very impressed.
I believe she can and will go the distance. I'll support whoever the nominee is, but it'll take someone phenomenal to do better than I think she is going to.
Kali
(55,004 posts)we have some really great candidates
another I would like to see getting in is Klobuchar, I think she could be good too.
yuiyoshida
(41,819 posts)I got attacked by some trolls in my support for Kamala. They said they were "Bernie Bros" but I am sure they were Russians... I blocked them!
nolabear
(41,938 posts)Apollyonus
(812 posts)After all, Tad Devine was Manafort's buddy working for the same oligarchs.
I don't believe in coincidences.
yuiyoshida
(41,819 posts)Bernie Bros.. don't know if they are tied to Russia But I wouldn't doubt it.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)Her call for Senator Frankin to resign shows she lacks the judgement to be President, in my opinion.
pnwmom
(108,960 posts)to the Congressional staffers who were among the women complaining about Franken. And she and ALL the other women Senators except Amy signed the letter. And Amy made it clear she stayed out of the decision because she and he worked together.
https://www.vox.com/2017/12/7/16742442/female-senators-al-franken-resigns
Gillibrand kicked off the campaign Wednesday morning. According to CNN, women in the Senate had been weighing how to respond to the growing number of accusations against Franken. When a seventh woman a congressional aide came forward, describing Franken's attempts to kiss her in 2006, they decided to speak up.
"Their patience had worn incredibly thin," a congressional aide told CNN.
So Gillibrand posted her message on Twitter, followed by similar messages from Sens. Claire McCaskill (MO), Maggie Hassan (NH), Mazie Hirono (HI), Patty Murray (WA), and Kamala Harris (CA).
✔
@PattyMurray
Im shocked and appalled by Senator Frankens behavior. Its clear to me that this has been a deeply harmful, persistent problem and a clear pattern over a long period of time.
Its time for him to step aside.
Their calls spurred several male colleagues to do the same. By the end of the day, about 32 Democratic senators had asked Franken to resign.
kelly1mm
(4,732 posts)At least for the primary season, at to what makes a candidate acceptable to me. Anyone who called for Senator Franken to resign does not have the judgement to be President. I will keep saying that and you can keep trying to explain it away.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)But the fact that both the horseshoe left and the horseshoe right are scared shitless and teaming up to fight her is a good sign...
Kamala/Beto '20
FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)real deal. I really liked that she declared at a huge rally, instead of meekly like some of the other candidates.
I've added her to the my list of Democrats to support with $:
https://kamalaharris.org
?1548632341767
usaf-vet
(6,165 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)I know its a lame statement. Its like when you are having a baby and people what do you want a girl or boy and response I dont care I just hope the baby is healthy. No duh! We see what happens when Dems stand united. Yes vigorous debate should be should occur when selecting a candidate but once that is done, we lock down support.
cstanleytech
(26,251 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)
What we really need to do though is avoid what happened the last time and not take snipe shots at each other nor the candidates thus causing hard feelings and dividing us as only united will we beat Trump.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Although after watching Kamala last night, she has what it takes and did a great job of answering questions.
As for not taking snipe shots and causing hard feelings, I also agree, but I see more and more attacks here from low count posters who probably are going to continue to divide DU just like they did in the lasts presidential election, and primary. Trolls gotta troll, and I have a feeling more trolls will be coming here to use the "divide and conquer" tactics once again.