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If you want to see a movie where ppl clap at the end and and you feel youve gotten your moneys worth, go see this one..
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Green Book (Original Post)
tavernier
Jan 2019
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skylucy
(3,739 posts)1. I agree. I loved it and recommend it to people all the time.
yonder
(9,663 posts)2. roger that. We saw it two nights ago. Wonderful.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)3. Yes. I saw it recently and it was wonderful.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)4. It was very entertaining...
The best this year, in my opinion.
Rhiannon12866
(205,225 posts)5. I've seen it, too, and I loved it!
It's a close up look at a shameful time in our recent history you'll root for both of the main characters, based on a true story.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)6. A different perspective...
https://themuse.jezebel.com/green-book-is-another-film-about-race-for-white-people-1830460623
Despite its frustrating politics, Green Book is the type of film tailor-made to court awards consideration from an Academy that had to be shamed into diversifying its ranks. With its insistence on the pretense of loving our way into racial harmony, the movie exists almost exclusively to allow white moviegoers to nod sagely about how far weve come before calling the cops on their black neighbors for not waving hello.
(Snip)
Its not difficult to enjoy this movie. Farrellys experience in comedy comes through clearly in the pithy banter between the leads, doing a lot of the heavy lifting to sell this unlikely friendship. Mortensen and Ali are also intensely charismatic in their roles. They play the contrast between Lips working class vulgarity and Shirleys hard won refinement against each other expertly, mining it for some of the films best moments and finding plenty of opportunities to showcase Alis distinctive laughter. An endearing plot point about Tonys letters home to his wife Dolores (Linda Cardellini, doing her best with yet another nothing role as the dutiful wife) injects genuine sentiment into what sometimes become grim proceedings.
But no matter which way you slice it, Green Book is a film about a racist white man making a black friend because he is suddenly given a financial stake in that mans well-being, forcing his personhood into sharp relief. The movie is told from Lips perspective; and of the two men, he is the one given a grounding backstory, family who love him, and a past that gives him context. By the films end, we are meant to believe he has changed because he reprimands a family member for describing Shirley with a slur. Never mind that this gives us no indication as to whether his newfound racial tolerance extends past Shirley. Are we supposed to believe that Lip will now be more accepting of the black handymen whose used glasses he tossed into the trash at the start of the film? As with Amma Asantes ill-considered Where Hands Touch, there is nothing redemptive about a a one good negro policy.
That, too, is a point of contention with the film. Don Shirley is depicted as an exceptional black, distinct from regular degular shmegular black people by virtue of his talent, education and refinement. He isnt familiar with the popular race music of the time and has to be schooled in how to eat fried chicken by Vallelonga. (Yes, really.) Theres an extended sequence in which he laments, in the rain, that he will never find a place in society because he is shunned by other black people for being too fancy but is still considered the help by whites. Lip even insists that he is the blacker of the two because of his own working class background.
(Snip)
One could argue that being based on real people, the film is limited by history in the liberties it can take with the story. But given that the film is co-written by Lips son Nick Vallelonga, it becomes clearer why the film skews in the direction of dismissing Lips racism for the feel-good narrative of a deeply-bonded interracial friendship. In trying to both tout and preserve his fathers legacy, Vallelonga reveals the intrinsic problem with race movies like these: they are always, always, always about letting white people off the hook for their individual roles in perpetuating institutional harms.
At the end of the film, as Lip and Shirley are on their way back to New York just in time for Christmas, they are pulled over by a police officer. A previous bad incident earlier in the film has them both on edge, but it turns out they have nothing to fear. The cop just noticed that their tire was flat and wanted to make sure they would be driving safely on roads still slick with fresh snowfall. They change the tire, thank the officer, and head home. On its own, its a nothing scene, but in a film expressly about confronting Americas thorny history of race relations released during a year that has seen ever increasing scrutiny on police violence against black people, it acts as a revision of sorts, a fine people on both sides narrative quid pro quo that insists on making space for good whites in a racist world that makes no such concessions for its victims. After all, isnt that the point of a story like this?
Despite its frustrating politics, Green Book is the type of film tailor-made to court awards consideration from an Academy that had to be shamed into diversifying its ranks. With its insistence on the pretense of loving our way into racial harmony, the movie exists almost exclusively to allow white moviegoers to nod sagely about how far weve come before calling the cops on their black neighbors for not waving hello.
(Snip)
Its not difficult to enjoy this movie. Farrellys experience in comedy comes through clearly in the pithy banter between the leads, doing a lot of the heavy lifting to sell this unlikely friendship. Mortensen and Ali are also intensely charismatic in their roles. They play the contrast between Lips working class vulgarity and Shirleys hard won refinement against each other expertly, mining it for some of the films best moments and finding plenty of opportunities to showcase Alis distinctive laughter. An endearing plot point about Tonys letters home to his wife Dolores (Linda Cardellini, doing her best with yet another nothing role as the dutiful wife) injects genuine sentiment into what sometimes become grim proceedings.
But no matter which way you slice it, Green Book is a film about a racist white man making a black friend because he is suddenly given a financial stake in that mans well-being, forcing his personhood into sharp relief. The movie is told from Lips perspective; and of the two men, he is the one given a grounding backstory, family who love him, and a past that gives him context. By the films end, we are meant to believe he has changed because he reprimands a family member for describing Shirley with a slur. Never mind that this gives us no indication as to whether his newfound racial tolerance extends past Shirley. Are we supposed to believe that Lip will now be more accepting of the black handymen whose used glasses he tossed into the trash at the start of the film? As with Amma Asantes ill-considered Where Hands Touch, there is nothing redemptive about a a one good negro policy.
That, too, is a point of contention with the film. Don Shirley is depicted as an exceptional black, distinct from regular degular shmegular black people by virtue of his talent, education and refinement. He isnt familiar with the popular race music of the time and has to be schooled in how to eat fried chicken by Vallelonga. (Yes, really.) Theres an extended sequence in which he laments, in the rain, that he will never find a place in society because he is shunned by other black people for being too fancy but is still considered the help by whites. Lip even insists that he is the blacker of the two because of his own working class background.
(Snip)
One could argue that being based on real people, the film is limited by history in the liberties it can take with the story. But given that the film is co-written by Lips son Nick Vallelonga, it becomes clearer why the film skews in the direction of dismissing Lips racism for the feel-good narrative of a deeply-bonded interracial friendship. In trying to both tout and preserve his fathers legacy, Vallelonga reveals the intrinsic problem with race movies like these: they are always, always, always about letting white people off the hook for their individual roles in perpetuating institutional harms.
At the end of the film, as Lip and Shirley are on their way back to New York just in time for Christmas, they are pulled over by a police officer. A previous bad incident earlier in the film has them both on edge, but it turns out they have nothing to fear. The cop just noticed that their tire was flat and wanted to make sure they would be driving safely on roads still slick with fresh snowfall. They change the tire, thank the officer, and head home. On its own, its a nothing scene, but in a film expressly about confronting Americas thorny history of race relations released during a year that has seen ever increasing scrutiny on police violence against black people, it acts as a revision of sorts, a fine people on both sides narrative quid pro quo that insists on making space for good whites in a racist world that makes no such concessions for its victims. After all, isnt that the point of a story like this?
TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)9. Yeah, the driver is the star of the movie
and the pianist is the supporting role. That puts me off. Don Shirley's family wasn't even consulted.
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)7. I have seen this once before..Very Unusual. Please Read..Box Office Mojo & Green Book
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=greenbook.htm
...I have been watching box office numbers for 25 years. Why? Love to see who goes to what movies, and if a movie is making money. Once, only once..."Word of Mouth advertising propelled a movie from a lower ranking up to the top. The movie was...."There's Something About Mary" That film stayed at 2 or 3 in popularity for weeks and in the 10th week out, (after much "word of mouth advertising" it moved up to number 1....
...........That never happened before and is extremely unlikely to happen again...
.....But Green Book has a chance because evidently it is a feel good movie and...it is starting to move up in the rankings after 5 weeks..that also is unheard of. After 5 weeks, movies always go down in attendance and how much money they take in..Green Book is doing the opposite..going up..and as stated above, it is a feel good movie that you walk out of feeling better than before, much better.. This last week hundreds of more theaters requested to have this movie at their locations. Unheard of ..very rare. After 5 weeks no movie moves up in rankings..they all go down..but.........Green Book is going up
.."Something About Mary" is exactly the same.. I will go to see "Green Book" this week..no matter what..
According to the chart at the link above...Green Book has become more popular in its 11th week at more theaters, bringing in more money than almost anytime in the 11 weeks. Also, that is unheard of and never happens..(except "Something About Mary")
The amount of money the movie took in in the 11th week, doubled the amount of money that it took in the 10th week..What that means..is people are talking about this film. And they are saying, "Go see this film it is a great film.." just like I read above..and as stated ..I will see this film this week..
.Oh, one more film..that got to me, and I recommend it very strongly. "The Iron Giant" is an animated film with a trick ending that it took me 5 viewings to figure out..Yes, you will feel good after watching this..and I guess you will figure out the ending quicker than I did..Yes, it is a great "feel good movie" enjoy and feel good. It is available at libraries and at Netflix I assume. (and not a lot of people know about it)
...I have been watching box office numbers for 25 years. Why? Love to see who goes to what movies, and if a movie is making money. Once, only once..."Word of Mouth advertising propelled a movie from a lower ranking up to the top. The movie was...."There's Something About Mary" That film stayed at 2 or 3 in popularity for weeks and in the 10th week out, (after much "word of mouth advertising" it moved up to number 1....
...........That never happened before and is extremely unlikely to happen again...
.....But Green Book has a chance because evidently it is a feel good movie and...it is starting to move up in the rankings after 5 weeks..that also is unheard of. After 5 weeks, movies always go down in attendance and how much money they take in..Green Book is doing the opposite..going up..and as stated above, it is a feel good movie that you walk out of feeling better than before, much better.. This last week hundreds of more theaters requested to have this movie at their locations. Unheard of ..very rare. After 5 weeks no movie moves up in rankings..they all go down..but.........Green Book is going up
.."Something About Mary" is exactly the same.. I will go to see "Green Book" this week..no matter what..
According to the chart at the link above...Green Book has become more popular in its 11th week at more theaters, bringing in more money than almost anytime in the 11 weeks. Also, that is unheard of and never happens..(except "Something About Mary")
The amount of money the movie took in in the 11th week, doubled the amount of money that it took in the 10th week..What that means..is people are talking about this film. And they are saying, "Go see this film it is a great film.." just like I read above..and as stated ..I will see this film this week..
.Oh, one more film..that got to me, and I recommend it very strongly. "The Iron Giant" is an animated film with a trick ending that it took me 5 viewings to figure out..Yes, you will feel good after watching this..and I guess you will figure out the ending quicker than I did..Yes, it is a great "feel good movie" enjoy and feel good. It is available at libraries and at Netflix I assume. (and not a lot of people know about it)
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)8. Yes,.. Green Book is nominated for an Academy Award for "Best Picture."
I just looked it up, and another reason to see it.