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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCaroline Kennedy seems like she would like to be anywhere but Charlotte
While I agree with her points...she doesn't have a lot of woo.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)but I have tons of respect for her.
Siwsan
(26,257 posts)I don't ever remember her as being effusive.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)Caroline has always been subdued, that's her style. I did not get the feeling that she didn't want to be there. She got a chance to talk about her Father.
ananda
(28,856 posts)She was fine!
onecent
(6,096 posts)they believed in..and politics....I applaud her for being there...I am not sure I would have the strength or the faith.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)You are talking as though you have never seen her speak before.
BumRushDaShow
(128,740 posts)She has always been a low-key, behind-the-scenes operator. Never an attention-craver.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I think she's very quiet & shy. Even in interviews, she's rarely emotional or energetic.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)her looks are strong Kennedy, but her mom's wide-set eyes.
John John looked very much like his mother, except his eyes were not wide-set (a strong trait of Bouviers).
John didn't have a strong speaking voice, either, although he was more of an extrovert. He wasn't nearly as smart as his sister, though.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)if she could ever get in office, she would be awesome. She is amazingly intelligent, focused, and hard working.
1gobluedem
(6,664 posts)Could have had an affect. But she's also a pretty contained person overall. I thoughtshe did great.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)would be hard for anyone. I was in tears. I suspect that is what Caroline was dealing with.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I'm not trying show any disrespect to Caroline Kennedy. I have seen her speak many times actually. But she always seems like she is speaking because she feels it is the obligation versus the emotion.
I've read she is an intense personal individual. I respect that.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Response to titaniumsalute (Original post)
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kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)If you do get in trouble, I'll have your back.
That was one stupid post that you responded to.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)speedoo
(11,229 posts)Try reading the thread you started.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Caroline Kennedy is not someone who seems to like to be in the spotlight. She, again tonight, seemed to want to be anywhere but in Charlotte. I feel bad that she probably thinks it is some sort of obligation to speak at these conventions and to do something that she clearly does not want to do.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)You are also wrong with your OP, because you have no idea what Caroline Kennedy wants to do.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)Peyew.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)d
Logical
(22,457 posts)CatWoman
(79,294 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,074 posts)When I saw her, she was grinning from ear to ear...
MANative
(4,112 posts)only rarely does these large events. The only other events you can count on her for are things related to the Kennedy Center, and to her father's Library. She is not, and never will be, a dynamic or skilled speaker. As someone who gives presentations for a large part of my work, I can guarantee that she HATES doing it, and people who don't like doing things generally don't do them very well.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I also speak for a living and studied Public Speaking as my college degree. She does NOT like it.
I feel bad for her because I think she feels obligated to speak. I think there's other very impactful things she could do without having to subject herself to something she doesn't like.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)you need some speakers who aren't giddy with excitement.
Caroline is naturally quiet and subdued. She works behind the scenes. But her message was very clear.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)If that's the case, she does VERY well. I say this as a person who CANNOT do public speaking because of nervous TERROR.
Stinky The Clown
(67,780 posts)This is her mantle, being the last of that whole family . . . . her father, her mother, and her brother.
polichick
(37,152 posts)...the party and the country - she has that heavy legacy on her shoulders.
calimary
(81,192 posts)She isn't the fiery orator we're used to by now. She never has been!
Not everybody can be a Deval Patrick, or a Michelle Obama, or a Bill Clinton, or Joe Biden or Barack Obama.
And maybe by now, we're all kinda spoiled by the fire and brimstone in some of our best speakers.
It's what she represents - and what she very correctly pointed out: that the rights MANY of us older DUers and others fought and marched and rallied and petitioned and struggled to win for minorities and women - during the decade of her father's short-lived presidency. Many of those same rights are now systematically being destroyed, shredded, rolled back, and at the very least under attack. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg is the last member of that First Family that all of America, indeed, the WORLD, fell in love with, and gave us hope and the sense of vigor and renewal after a long dreary boring era of the 1950s. When the President was an old man and the First Lady was an old woman, and the only way many of us young ones could even begin to relate was that they were somebody's grandparents. NOTHING for all that time that reached out and connected with the youth of America. But then came Caroline's dad. It was the FIRST TIME in anyone's memory that there were little kids - just a little younger than I was - IN THE WHITE HOUSE, living there, playing there, dancing around in their daddy's office, spoke volumes. SCREAMED them, as a matter of fact. It was like transitioning from a cold winter to a warming, greening spring.
And YES, I agree with you about what you call the "woo" factor. Nowadays we're so pablumized and junkied-out on flash and trash and media pizazz that you have to walk out on stage wearing slices of raw meat all over your body to move the meter any. The noise has turned up PAST eleven, and you have to make the biggest splash to get noticed. So okay. Fiery oratory. Yes, it sells. Yes it grabs attention. So do orly taitz and donald trump and glenn beck and ann coulter. But sometimes, the quieter approach provides contrast.
Okay, she wasn't a Jennifer Granholm, either. And I'm sorry to come down on you like this, titaniumsalute and be such a hard-ass. And I'm assuming you're younger than I am (pretty easy to do, since I feel like MOST of the people on this board and elsewhere are younger than I am by now). That Kennedy family meant something VERY special and symbolic to a whole generation of us (at the time) young Americans. Now that John-John's gone, Caroline is the only member of that family still with us. And what she represents in terms of that family's legacy to America - almost can't be fully counted. I've only seen inspiration like that since Barack Obama arrived on the national scene.
Caroline Kennedy can speak at a podium in as boring and monotonous a way as possible, STYLISTICALLY, that is. WHAT she says is a LOT more important than how she says it. And believe me, it's not as though we don't have enough fiery bombastic speakers. We have an embarrassment of riches as far as fiery bombastic speakers this year!
Sorry I came down on you. But it had to be said.
randome
(34,845 posts)Inspiration comes from delivery as well as facts.
I happen to agree with the OP. She did not seem like she cared all that much about being there.
calimary
(81,192 posts)She is who she is. Very reserved and very private. But sometimes you don't need pizazz. I didn't get the "I'd rather be anywhere else" vibe off her at all.
snacker
(3,619 posts)Giving a speech probably is not one of her most favorite things to do.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Like others said, she is a private person tho.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)of being trotted out every 4 years as the representative for JFK.
Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)Had the accident not happened. He seemed like he might've been leaning that way in the late 90's. Think how many votes he'd have had just off looks alone.