aid was sent 45 times to Ukraine UNTIL after Biden announced.

Don't be distracted and believe Russian propaganda. The facts will come out.

- Neither April 21 or July 25 call with Zelensky mention word “corruption”
- DOD certified Ukraine met anti-corruption benchmarks months before hold
- By July 25, Zelensky established anti-corruption agenda
- pResident tRump pursued baseless investigation

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There was no quid pro except there was a quid pro quo and so what?

why wouldn't the Senate assume the same?

I have not been able to stomach much of this, but I am glad I unmuted long enough to listen to Schiff's last rebuttal. Well done, sir.

We don’t deserve Adam Schiff.

They've been very good about showing everything up to today.

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Watching other streams. CBS somewhat reliably puts up images of the questions.

On edit: CBS seems to have dropped all posting of questions mid-evening.

public who are watching will jump on that! It's the first time I heard that accusation made so forcefully, and I watch this junk all the time!

and usually it's only the junkies who would still have this on...

not a "Republican playbook" or a "Democratic playbook".

there was. Why should we believe that anything the President says has credibility?

"No quid pro quo, but quid pro quo".

Why would the President do his shakedown when other people were in earshot? It means he thinks he is above the law.

(aside from me - I understand they have now started to limit who are on the calls)

but in english

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are they all disgruntled, he asks?

I just learned today about this and it's the law.
this guy has a cold dark soul.

handed hundreds of millions of dollars were handed over to him. So why wouldn't the reverse act not be considered the same?

The reverse not true?

Great question!

It does go to the heart of “Well he paid them anyway! He can do what he wants! L’etat, c’est him!”

Not, he didn’t do it, just they didn’t accuse him right.

Phil bin is just a



BTW my apologies to weasels ... years ago when I was deer hunting I had a little weasel crawl out of
hollowed out branch from a dead tree stump about a 2 feet from me ... dressed in his/her winter white
outfit .... and just look @ me. I gave him/her some of my ham sandwich.

Might not be a direct quote.

And some more, whaw wa whaw wa wa wah

that's gonna play well

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to testify what he has said publicly.

and witnesses.

The House agrees to what the Chief Justice rules.

he’s been allowed to screw things up for YEARS now. We’re so far past overturning the 2016 election territory, that it’s ridiculous.

wouldn't he have to specify exactly what docs or parts of documents are privileged?

Yes, he's doing well.

Just wondering if House managers could signal that they want some Senator to send a "please respond to WH counsel's response" to the desk.

yeh, rhetorical ?

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when it's his ass in the hot seat

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He has no idea because it is bullshit. (and hint hint -here is where OMB can answer that question if they were allowed to testify.)

proceedings?

do it now and fast!"

President offered every due process right during these proceedings.

they could have been reissued afterwards and why weren't they done?

The House is empowered to determine the rules of its own proceedings. This is not controlled by the President.

Garcia:

“...the Judiciary Committee began an investigation into President Nixon’s misconduct for four months before approval of the House resolution.”

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Can search and review the transcript here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?468632-1/senate-impeachment-trial-day-9

What did the President say, when and to whom?

So many dead horses (lies and double-stacked lies).
So little patience and forbearance even possible at this point.

Truth crushed to earth will rise again - we can only hope.