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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:30 PM Jan 2020

Anyone See This? What Do You Think?





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@CaslerNoel

I got a message a couple months ago from a Navy Medic who was stationed at the Pentagon and formerly the WH. Suffice it to say many are aware of Trump’s drug abuse. His trip to Walter Reed was not the first but third. He also told me percocet was in the mix now.
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Anyone See This? What Do You Think? (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2020 OP
See this and tell me what you think- rzemanfl Jan 2020 #1
Very Interesting! MineralMan Jan 2020 #2
I don't think anyone would be surprised if that's true. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #3
I suffer from chronic pain, but it doesn't make me mean, because I wasn't mean to begin with. Trump tblue37 Jan 2020 #6
Well, that's thing with drugs Bucky Jan 2020 #10
People are easier to anger, but he probably has a degree of drug induced psychosis. Along with 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #35
Why I take Casler's allegations seriously. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #4
Not surprising at all. Talitha Jan 2020 #5
Scary as fuck Bucky Jan 2020 #7
I'm not sure an unknown comedian NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #8
He was on the staff of "The Apprentice." MineralMan Jan 2020 #9
I wouldn't be surprised if it was true NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #11
I am not really concerned with what Team Trump would say. MineralMan Jan 2020 #14
I guess they like saying bdamomma Jan 2020 #42
He worked on the crew of "The Apprentice." Mike 03 Jan 2020 #12
When a screen shot showed Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #13
I did. No honorable health care provider of any degree talks about a patient, ever irisblue Jan 2020 #15
What causes a swallowing problem? Mosby Jan 2020 #17
They are many many causes irisblue Jan 2020 #19
informative addition to the OP. thanks. dameatball Jan 2020 #22
Thank you for link bobbieinok Jan 2020 #43
very interesting thank you bdamomma Jan 2020 #45
This Is how my dad died.... Heartstrings Jan 2020 #48
I am sorry for that great loss. 🕯️ irisblue Jan 2020 #51
Thank you! Heartstrings Jan 2020 #55
No honorable health care provider of any degree talks about a patient, ever Submariner Jan 2020 #21
I'm retired now. I am glad I don't have to pick up that battle irisblue Jan 2020 #26
When a nation itself is in danger you disregard hipa concerns. Ligyron Jan 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Jan 2020 #28
Imagine the makeup artist on The Apprentice Mike 03 Jan 2020 #16
George Conway hinted at percocet a few weeks ago. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #18
If the Pentagon is aware it's disgusting zentrum Jan 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2020 #67
Good point. You're right. zentrum Jan 2020 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2020 #72
O........D? Traildogbob Jan 2020 #23
That's enough. Iggo Jan 2020 #27
I'm reminded of the Hippocratic oath that all MDs swear to FakeNoose Jan 2020 #40
"Do no harm" czarjak Jan 2020 #47
Oath? Traildogbob Jan 2020 #57
And yet, nothing seems to matter matt819 Jan 2020 #24
One would think it was meth. . . BigDemVoter Jan 2020 #25
He doesn't look like a meth addict leftieNanner Jan 2020 #31
Does it make skin look pitted and hideous? WyattKansas Jan 2020 #33
Google Images of Meth Addicts leftieNanner Jan 2020 #34
Meth addicts don't normally have highly paid makeup artists either. llmart Jan 2020 #36
It's more the weight loss issue leftieNanner Jan 2020 #37
Verrry interestink! I find it easy to believe. Nitram Jan 2020 #29
I believe him karin_sj Jan 2020 #30
I do hope eveyone who wants to save this country is ready to go public with all damning info. WyattKansas Jan 2020 #32
Percocet is a combo of oxycontin and acetominophen, for everyone's info. bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #38
The opiod crisis reaches the White House. tinrobot Jan 2020 #60
Actually, it's a combination of Oxycodone and acetominophen COLGATE4 Jan 2020 #63
you know that bastard bdamomma Jan 2020 #39
Not in the least bit surprised Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #41
Well, then I will adjust my prayers to include self-inflicted causes... Moostache Jan 2020 #44
let him just leave this earth. bdamomma Jan 2020 #49
and yes, and it is truly incredible, none of this matters one bit to the people who elected him once CTyankee Jan 2020 #46
another 4 years bdamomma Jan 2020 #50
not pretty, what we got ourselves into... CTyankee Jan 2020 #56
or will the internet bdamomma Jan 2020 #58
If you take that medication for long periods of time and you take more than prescribed saljr1 Jan 2020 #52
Saw it last night Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #53
Excuse me, but what's it gonna take? ecstatic Jan 2020 #59
Isn't percocet the drug that killed Michael Jackson? malaise Jan 2020 #61
No. Michael Jackson died from a surgical anesthetic, Propofol, that is MineralMan Jan 2020 #62
Thanks - wasn't sure if it was MJ or Prince malaise Jan 2020 #65
No. It was Propofol, a very effective COLGATE4 Jan 2020 #64
Tks malaise Jan 2020 #66
That was posted yesterday bdamomma Jan 2020 #69
Oh, OK. MineralMan Jan 2020 #70
oh I can't find it right now bdamomma Jan 2020 #71

bearsfootball516

(6,376 posts)
3. I don't think anyone would be surprised if that's true.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

He’s exhibited several signs over the years of drug use. Percocet usage wouldn’t surprise me. At his age and unhealthy lifestyle, he’s probably in a decent amount of pain.

I know I’ve seen videos over the last year or two where he appears to be limping or have an unusual gait.

And I may be reaching here, but people who are in pain tend to be meaner than those who feel well. He spends a LOT of his time angry and raging. I could see part of the reason he’s always so angry because he just doesn’t feel good.

tblue37

(65,290 posts)
6. I suffer from chronic pain, but it doesn't make me mean, because I wasn't mean to begin with. Trump
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jan 2020

has always been vicious.

58Sunliner

(4,380 posts)
35. People are easier to anger, but he probably has a degree of drug induced psychosis. Along with
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jan 2020

his narcissism and sociopathy. Look at any stimulant side effect, especially if long-term abuse is an issue. My brother is addicted to snorting Ritalin. He stayed at my place for 2 weeks and kept telling me he heard women being abused through the window. Even made recordings and said to me, can you hear her? Then he played back white noise. I can't tell you how hard it was not to laugh. Different people will present differently. He is a non-violent person with a high IQ. I can't imagine what the stimulant addiction would do to a person with a borderline IQ and previous issues. But I bet paranoia is a factor. Blaming drugs is like blaming alcohol-excusing the inexcusable. Don't really care how he got there, he allowed it to happen.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. Why I take Casler's allegations seriously.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jan 2020

He is the former Apprentice "staffer" who claims Trump's drug abuse was common knowledge.

There are no secrets on a movie set, and I'm assuming that's even more true of working on a television show where a crew is together for months, over a period of seasons. Somebody had to clean Trump's honeywagon/dressing room. Several times a day a production assistant empties Mr. Trump's trash basket, etc... Those people know everything, and during lulls in production that person talks to the production assistants, and the production assistants talk to any number of other people on a production. Gossip is endemic on sets, especially about the people who are rude or not well-liked.

There's also the fact that you are in very close proximity to the same people for hours a day five or six days a week. Noticing when someone is "off" isn't difficult.

EDIT: Having said that, I'm not sure how he is getting current information about the president's drug use. We would have to believe he has this former Pentagon source, I suppose.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
7. Scary as fuck
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jan 2020

Back during the Cold War years, people often regarded the Turkish military hierarchy as sort of their version of Supreme Court, stepping in when the elected officials got too far off the neoliberal farm.

For an American, that's a pretty disturbing thought it, that the constitutional balance depends on the military stepping in to overrule an elected leader. But now that we have an Ottoman in the White House, I'm finding a little nuance in my fear of military interference. There may well come a time when we want the generals to disobey an order.

I'm kind of creeping myself out even thinking that thought

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jan 2020

but, Team Trump will just say that he's a disgruntled former employee

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. He worked on the crew of "The Apprentice."
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jan 2020

He came forward some time ago with the allegation Trump used Adderall on the set.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. When a screen shot showed
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jan 2020

a Band-Aide on his right hand covering what looked like a I V insertion mark. You knew something was up. Notice he never allows his hand to be in a camera shot after that. The Guy sure looks like a Drugie.

irisblue

(32,960 posts)
15. I did. No honorable health care provider of any degree talks about a patient, ever
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Unless you got a judge& lawyers in front of you in a court of law.


Honestly, I wonder if the Nov trip to Walter Reed was for an emergency swallowing test. We've all seen how his speech patterns have changed, how involved his facial & throat muscles have to work to get out words. And he mentioned only eating mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving in theater with the troops & when was the last public recording of him eating food?

Prep for a swallowing test is fairly simple, no food, drink, smoking for a couple of hours before the test and you need an XRay machine, technologist (👋 ,a radiologist and a computer system. Walter Reed has all that.


Yeah I know this is all supposition.



:::Forgot


You also need staff from Respiratory Therapy and suction equipment just in case, also a Speech Pathologist is good to have near by.

I apologize to Respiratory Therapy staff

irisblue

(32,960 posts)
19. They are many many causes
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020

Start with this website
https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/tp23477spec


In my experience, limited tho it maybe I did not specialize in this area, as dementia/organic brain damage increased over time, the loss of muscle controls increases, (you've seen his gait changes yes?), the risk of aspiration increases. Aspiration is inhailing a foreign object into the lungs, for example smoke particles cause problems.


The epiglottis acts as a 'stopper' at the top of the throat, it closes the airway, momentarily so the digestive tract swallows. If the epiglottis fails, even momentarily, for any reason, you'll cough really hard, sometimes pass out(remember Shrub choking on pretzels in '02?).



Hope this helps

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
45. very interesting thank you
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jan 2020

so it proves that he is not healthy at all. I just hope his mental and physical health throw him a curve.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
48. This Is how my dad died....
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jan 2020

He couldn’t swallow for some unknown reason and had a DNR/no feeding tube order. He only received fluids by IV. He basically starved to death. He was 86....

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
55. Thank you!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jan 2020

Not a day goes by that I don’t think of him and how proud and lucky I was to have him as my father!

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
21. No honorable health care provider of any degree talks about a patient, ever
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jan 2020

I agree with that concept 99.99% of the time.

But when a racist F'ing moron with nuclear weapons who just turned back the EPA clock 50 years on environmental protection is all drugged up and F'ing up my life and pursuit of happiness, then that rule does not apply at all...Period.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
54. When a nation itself is in danger you disregard hipa concerns.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jan 2020

I would and I'll bet anyone else would too unless a you were a Trumper. But those need to go from being a health care professional to mental patient anyway.

Response to irisblue (Reply #15)

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. Imagine the makeup artist on The Apprentice
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jan 2020



He/She had to look into Trump's alleged Adderall-snorting nostrils every morning during the filming of The Apprentice.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
18. George Conway hinted at percocet a few weeks ago.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jan 2020

So it might be true.

My dad got addicted to percocet in hospital after a car crash and in traction for months. He never complained about it...LOL

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
20. If the Pentagon is aware it's disgusting
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jan 2020

.....and traitorous to not go public. Aren't they there to serve and protect the country? Where is their real patriotism?

Seven Days in May time.

Response to zentrum (Reply #20)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
68. Good point. You're right.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jan 2020

But then, all they have to do is go public--right? Expose him. Or at least tell Congress. The military could whistle blow without usurping the 3 branch system---no?

Response to zentrum (Reply #68)

Traildogbob

(8,709 posts)
23. O........D?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jan 2020

Give him all the drugs he wants, except viagra. The sooner he croaks, the better the entire world will be. Switch his Coke out with powered white battery acid. Brew Diet Coke with Flint water. Pump coal infused air into the whitehouse air vents. Send him to meet the asshole that sent him to the presidency, God. Mansions and streets of gold. Unlimited virgins. Him and God could exchange stories of impregnating married virgins and being the greatest at everything. See, liberals can be nice and wish you well even when you are an asshole.

Traildogbob

(8,709 posts)
57. Oath?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jan 2020

Like, senators and trump, hand on bible, so help me God, fair and impartial jury? I was just spitballin sarcasm. Of course I mean trump no harm. Just like for him to hurry towards his paradise of Gold, Mansions, and hangin with his equal in power. Wishing him good stuff. I am sure some Latinos with connections can hook him up with some good stuff, really cheap. Could be a part of the new trade agreement with Mexico.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
24. And yet, nothing seems to matter
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jan 2020

Hell, you can probably show red staters and GOP senators pictures of trump with a needle in his arm and spaced out on whatever, and they'll say, hey, he's just like one of us. Or, boy, do I envy that guy. I'd love to be spaced out like that. Whataguy.

Two hours in makeup every day? Midwest farmers response? Hey, we'd spend a couple of hours in makeup every day if we were president. Whataguy.

Two hours on the toilet every day tweeting hate. Red staters? Hey, we got him beat there. We spend more than two hours a day on the toilet tweeting hate. Gotta up your game, guy. Otherwise, whataguy.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
31. He doesn't look like a meth addict
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

He's fat and he apparently still has teeth. Meth is really bad stuff.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
34. Google Images of Meth Addicts
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jan 2020

It's horrible. But as ugly as Trump is, and as much as he has deteriorated, I don't think that's his drug of choice.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
36. Meth addicts don't normally have highly paid makeup artists either.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jan 2020

Without access to all that the Dump has available to him, who knows what he really looks like. Heck, we've all seen pictures of him where he looks absolutely awful and that's AFTER he's been made up.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
37. It's more the weight loss issue
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jan 2020

Meth addicts are, from the images I have seen (and a guy who was in the Emergency Room when I had to take my Dad in) very thin - gaunt, in fact. Orange Man is even fatter than when he ran for office. Granted, he has he ready supply of KFC and hamberders. So, who knows?

karin_sj

(808 posts)
30. I believe him
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

Too bad he didn't use his cell phone to secretly record some of the horrendously racist and sexist things that the orange creature has said during the time Casler worked as an Apprentice staffer. You would think that somebody would have done so by now, considering the dire state our country is in right now.

There are so many horrible, immoral, and illegal things that this vile man has done over his entire life. There has to be a ton of people (in addition to Parnas and some of the other brave people who have come forward). It's time for his unbelievable luck at avoiding the consequences to his actions to run out.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
32. I do hope eveyone who wants to save this country is ready to go public with all damning info.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jan 2020

Before the Senate votes.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
63. Actually, it's a combination of Oxycodone and acetominophen
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jan 2020

not Oxycontin (a much more powerful opioid)

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
44. Well, then I will adjust my prayers to include self-inflicted causes...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jan 2020

I already pray daily to the universe for karma to strike him down via a cardiac attack, if he does it to himself, all the better in my book. I have no problem with him OD'ing himself out of existence.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
46. and yes, and it is truly incredible, none of this matters one bit to the people who elected him once
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jan 2020

and who just might elect him again. Then he'll be in office for another go, and as long as he is "useful" he will stay (and threatens not to leave, a real constitutional crisis) and we'll be back here still talking about all of this and...then what?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
56. not pretty, what we got ourselves into...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jan 2020

DU might just become a real "underground" again...sigh, we were so innocent then, when DU got started. We thought W was so awful...

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
58. or will the internet
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jan 2020

still be here??? we all know what dictatorship's do they keep communication away from the people, and we see that now with him spewing about fake news and just giving people propaganda to mess them up psychologically.

I just hope the American people (I exclude DU'ers) wake up. What will it take, social security gone, the climate, health coverage.

Is this what we want for our country or for other generations a dictatorship? Sad just really sad.

If things do get out of hand, think about your options or your means of survival. Get things in order. Or am I just being too paranoid.

Lets start with getting this vile POS out in November, and vote him out.

saljr1

(273 posts)
52. If you take that medication for long periods of time and you take more than prescribed
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jan 2020

which I did until I had surgery years ago, you develop delusions of grandeur and invincibility. Wait a minute, he's been like that all his life.

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
59. Excuse me, but what's it gonna take?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jan 2020

73+ years old, morbidly obese, sedentary, lives off fast food, always angry and agitated, decades of drug abuse...?

Am I missing something?

malaise

(268,885 posts)
61. Isn't percocet the drug that killed Michael Jackson?
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jan 2020

Use more Don the Con, use more - pretty pretty please!

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
62. No. Michael Jackson died from a surgical anesthetic, Propofol, that is
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jan 2020

a member of the benzodiazepine family, which also includes xanax and others.

Prince, on the other hand, died from taking a fake percocet, which contained fentanyl, a more potent opioid, that caused a lethal overdose.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
64. No. It was Propofol, a very effective
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jan 2020

(but tremendously dangerous if not used by a trained professional) anesthetic.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
70. Oh, OK.
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jan 2020

I posted it as a thread starter, also yesterday. I didn't see it in a thread. I saw it on my Twitter feed.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
71. oh I can't find it right now
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jan 2020

I know it was posted though. Very interesting though, and everyone knew he has drug misuse issues.

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